TaylorSFGuy
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Down 5 bars at 141,000 miles

Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:45 pm

It has been some time since I've posted an update.

My mileage rate/month has dropped as I'm splitting my driving across another LEAF. Today was a perfect example - rather suddenly this morning, I realized I didn't plug in the '11 last night. So I plugged in the '14 and because of the faster charger in the newer models, I was able to head out after a much shorter charge time and make it to work without stopping.

As we go along, things seem to be getting better and better in the world of Nissan EV. If the purported higher capacity battery packs are interchangeable, Nissan has followed through on everything I hoped for when I started this journey more than 4 years ago. The multiple model levels introduced in the last couple of years have made the car more attractive to me.

I am currently charging midway at least once each direction of my commute. The recent GID drop supports my impression that it is getting harder to go this distance. There will come a time when I say enough is enough and I don't want to try and make the old battery continue to work for this commute. I anticipate that to be somewhere around 150,000 miles. It will continue to be a great errand runner.

I have noticed that when put in ECO mode, the REGEN is now next to nothing and no longer slows the car significantly.

Everything about the car has been terrific - brakes are still on their first set, Tires are on second set with lots of tread left. Still no need for a wheel alignment and holds straight. No other mechanical issues beyond the power window switch a couple of years ago. Is there any other car model out there that can go this kind of distance with such little maintenance?

Thanks again for everyone's support and encouragement. Steve
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Re: Down 5 bars at 141,000 miles

Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:44 pm

So, how many miles do you get on a charge ? I guess much better now in summer than you would in winter this year.
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Re: Down 5 bars at 141,000 miles

Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:21 pm

Thanks for the update. Apologies if you have answered this question elsewhere, but when it gets to the point that you simply cannot trust the car for all but the shortest of drives, would you be willing to have the battery pack replaced? It would be a shame to put that car into semi-retirement when (other than the battery degradation) it's served you so faithfully and there's nothing else wrong with it.
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Re: Down 5 bars at 141,000 miles

Sun Aug 02, 2015 5:57 am

RonDawg wrote:...would you be willing to have the battery pack replaced?

That is truly the beauty of our cars. The electric motor should last a long, LONG time. A replacement battery pack should be all the refurbishment the vehicle needs. $6K for a new battery pack is peanuts for maintenance on a 141,000 mile vehicle.

Steve, have you posted your LeafSpy results lately? It might be interesting to see since your car isn't doing much regen anymore.
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Re: Down 5 bars at 141,000 miles

Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:40 am

surprised that you are getting less regen in eco mode. that seems to be in opposition to the setting's purpose. makes me want to experiment with Drive mode (have probably less than 10 total miles in drive mode over 2 LEAFs and 70,000+ miles) but without cruise control, I find it difficult to maintain my speed target but then again, getting ready to leave on a 94 mile work jaunt and guessing traffic will not be agreeable on the way home so might try it then
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Re: Down 5 bars at 141,000 miles

Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:14 am

Thanks for the update! I'm impressed at your perseverance with that 2011 battery.

Given the regen limitations, is it taking much longer to add a given amount of charge via QC?
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Re: Down 5 bars at 141,000 miles

Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:00 pm

With 5 bars down aren't you getting a free battery replacement per warranty?
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Re: Down 5 bars at 141,000 miles

Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:01 pm

ILETRIC wrote:With 5 bars down aren't you getting a free battery replacement per warranty?


He was WAY over on mileage before loosing the 4th bar.
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Re: Down 5 bars at 141,000 miles

Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:01 pm

ILETRIC wrote:With 5 bars down aren't you getting a free battery replacement per warranty?


No, he lost bar 4 out of warranty. Warranty is only good for 60,000 miles for US in flyover states, even if it was longer for Washington state, he didn't lose bar 4 until

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Re: Down 5 bars at 141,000 miles

Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:06 am

While a battery upgrade would be ideal, it may not make financial sense at today's prices. His car's BB value is about $3k. He'd be better off trading for an $8K near 4 bar loser car, under warranty, then get a fresh pack.
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