TonyWilliams wrote:6. Start a battery exchange program. When degradation hits some value, you go to a dealer who has access to a regional battery bank (in climate controlled buildings), who then swaps out your battery while you wait. A nominal fee is charged for the service, but all costs of batteries are borne by Nissan
Hey, i knew you would come around! actually, i dont blame you for being upset but i did not think you were the type of person to assume the worst. i took you as a "it is not "feasible" because no one had the guts to do it yet, so i will show them "how its done" type of guy.
but you have to admit speculation completely based on a worst case scenario has simply gotten out of control. i mean lawsuits? wow. either way, i think you are probably very close here.
i posted this in the "battery lease" thread and granted its a short quote from a long post so could be read a bit out of context but basically its investigating Nissan and 2nd guessing their decisions on active battery management. working in the tech support/customer service field i have noticed an ongoing pattern in emerging technology that is pretty repeatable. companies play their cards real close to the breast so we will never know a tenth of the facts considered when these decisions were made but a few things are obvious. in the decision making room we have 3 entities; engineering, sales and marketing.
marketing has 80% of the say so, engineering about 20% and sales basically gets coffee for the other two. so there is no surprises here. Nissan knew this would happen and marketing made a decision. it was a risk as all marketing decisions are. engineering told them what would happen. they were emphatic in their pleading. Marketing said ok then , can you do "A" by "X". engineering said "no", marketing went to the board and replied "no problem, engineering assured us they are on schedule" and here we are.
if you remember back, it was obvious that marketing had created an ambitious timetable for the LEAF launch that simply could not be met. back in 2009, there was all kinds of announcements touting all kinds of EVs that would be vying for the initial customer. as we all know now, none of that happened. the timetables were either pushed back or the company simply faded away. 19 months later, Nissan still essentially stands alone. so they had much more time then they thought and well, you know.
so playing the roll of "armchair engineer" here is something that i cant really justify since we dont really have a clue as to what the engineers of Nissan really wanted but...
without #'s on costs, its tough to run a cost analysis but maybe a program that builds in the cost of pack replacements every 3 years for 20-40% of the LEAFs is cheaper than installing active temp controls on 100% of the vehicles especially when a newer chemistry with completely different needs and requirements might be just around the corner.
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