Valdemar
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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:37 pm

Is there any indication that Nissan might finally be switching to larger capacity packs for older Leafs perhaps software-limited? I mean, even 30kWh is no longer an option for the current production models. 2-3k for a low-mileage 11/12 Leaf with a sad battery + 9k for a new 30kWh pack can be a reasonable strategy if they discontinue the 24kWh variant.
'11 SL, totaled
-1CB@33k/21mo, -2CB@53k/33mo, -3CB@68k/41mo, -4CB(41.5AHr)@79k/49mo, -5CB(38.85AHr)@87.5k/54mo
-0CB(66.14AHr)@87.5k/54mo (BBB), -1CB(53.92Ahr)@140k/29mo,
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rmay635703
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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:33 pm

Nissan will not provide anything but 24kwhr packs, period.

What will be interesting is what happens near the end of the warranty period in 5 years for 2015 lizard cars.

I am uncertain how many spares Nissan has but they will be scraping bottom by 2024 if someone has a pack collapse, also it’s very curious that we haven’t had any of the old sub 50% capacity pack start developing fully failed cells bricking cars.

I’ve been in the EV conversion side of things a long time and in every case once lithium packs age below 50% you start getting a whack a mole of cell failures.

Very curious we haven’t seen any 2011/2012’s without outright cell failures, although we have until 2021/22 in California to find out I guess.

cwerdna
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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Wed May 08, 2019 6:57 pm

Became aware of this '12 at https://www.carmax.com/car/17145958. What a fricking joke! It's allegedly a '12 SL with 82K miles down 6 capacity bars (skip to picture 10) and they're asking for $6,998! Hope no sucker falls for that high a "no haggle" price.

That's a maybe a $3.5K car or less, if you ask me. Or, maybe it's a parts car for another '12.

It's another disturbing trend that someone at https://www.facebook.com/groups/nissan. ... 467612911/ asked about this. They said that had a '17 Leaf that was a lemon and they instead were looking into '12 and they posted the above car. Seriously?

It's very disturbing to me the # of people I've seen seeing on FB groups poking around about '11 and '12 Leafs w/o knowing about capacity bars, the chemistry of the battery it came with, etc. At least this person asked and got the proper responses of run away and it is out of capacity warranty.

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LeftieBiker
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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Wed May 08, 2019 9:47 pm

This is why I wrote the buying guide for used Leafs. I don't do FB, so feel free to repost it there.

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=26662
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