2015 Nissal Leaf S - Level 3 charging issues

Howard · Jan 19, 2015

I just bought a 2015 Nissan Leaf S. Recently, I have been having trouble with trickle charging which I mentioned in an alternate thread, I have been visiting a Level 3 charge unit which is close to my house. This charge unit is run by ChargePoint.

I am able to use the unit to charge my car. But the last two days, after the charge has completed, I am unable to remove the Level 3 charging plug. Both times I have had to wait on the phone while they restart the unit and then finally reboot the unit and after three times, I am pulling really hard and all of a sudden it releases. Shouldn't it automatically unlock when the charging is complete?

I have several questions. Do I have control over whether the plug is released? I have had my lock set to auto, and I press 'unlock' on my key, but it still doesn't release. My lock switch in the car has three options, "auto", "lock" and "release". I didn't think of this, but if I press the "charge port lid" button, will this release the lock? Also, do these locking buttons apply to the trickle charge port as well as the for the quick charge port?

Is there some sequence of buttons I can press which will guarantee that I can remove the charging plug?

Also, why is it that rebotting the charge unit and trying to restart it allows me to release the plug without pressing any buttons? I would like to resolve this without talking to the support people on the phone. Today the lady at ChargePoint was getting annoyed with me and I felt like she wasn't going to reboot the unit and my car might be stuck to the charging unit. I woud like to avoid this in the future. Can anybody help?

electriccarfan · Jan 19, 2015

Howard said:
I just bought a 2015 Nissan Leaf S. Recently, I have been having trouble with trickle charging which I mentioned in an alternate thread, I have been visiting a Level 3 charge unit which is close to my house. This charge unit is run by ChargePoint.

I am able to use the unit to charge my car. But the last two days, after the charge has completed, I am unable to remove the Level 3 charging plug. Both times I have had to wait on the phone while they restart the unit and then finally reboot the unit and after three times, I am pulling really hard and all of a sudden it releases. Shouldn't it automatically unlock when the charging is complete?

I have several questions. Do I have control over whether the plug is released? I have had my lock set to auto, and I press 'unlock' on my key, but it still doesn't release. My lock switch in the car has three options, "auto", "lock" and "release". I didn't think of this, but if I press the "charge port lid" button, will this release the lock? Also, do these locking buttons apply to the trickle charge port as well as the for the quick charge port?

I have a 2014 Leaf S and I've had absolutly no problem Trickle Charging. In fact, I only charge with the 120V Trickle Charger. I didn't want to pay out big money to have a 220V outlet installed and all that, so I just keep using the Trickle Charger overnight every night.

As far a I know the Lock button only applies to the normal charge port (level 1 & 2), not the CHAdeMO Quick Charge port. I myself have never used a Quick Charge station so I can't say why its not releasing. I have seen instructional videos on how to use it Youtube.

According to this video, "you hold down the handle and the button to remove it". It seems pretty simple though. What ever you do I wouldn't force it, yank on it, apply pressure, or etc since you could damage the port (possibly over time).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eNDdaTpoWQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Howard · Jan 19, 2015

So I guess this is a basic question. Do the lock functions (buttons) only apply to the trickle charge port, or does it also apply to the Quick Charge Port?

electriccarfan · Jan 19, 2015

Howard said:
So I guess this is a basic question. Do the lock functions (buttons) only apply to the trickle charge port, or does it also apply to the Quick Charge Port?

The lock functions only apply to the Trickle Charge port. And it doesn't lock too well by the way. Its been discovered that someone can pick the locking mechanism easily. So probably not good to rely on it.

More information on the port.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoMXTrwRE_Q" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

But, I should say that this port is used for both Level 1 and Level 2 charging (not sure if you knew that). They share the same port (Level 1 120V "Trickle Charge" and Level 2 220V-240V charging).

Howard · Jan 19, 2015

Ok thanks electriccarfan.

So what dictates how the locking mechanism works on the quick charge port?

Do I have any personal control over the quick charge locking mechanism?

Otherwise, is this only controlled by the Quick Charge Level 3 chargin unit?

(Other than this, I've been quite impressed with the Quick charge. I went from 27% to 92% in 59 minutes in sub freezing temperature today.)

desiv · Jan 19, 2015

Is it possible there's something wrong with the Level 3 charge plug you are using?
You should try another one...

It can be tricky to get the hang of pulling down the lever and then pushing the button on top of the charge handle to release it also...
I always seem to try to do that in the other order.. ;-)
It's easy to just pull up the lever (squeeze it) to lock it in place, but the 2 step release I get backwards..
(Only been doing this for a few weeks tho, so hoping I'll get the hang of it soon

)

desiv

Howard · Jan 19, 2015

desiv said:
Is it possible there's something wrong with the Level 3 charge plug you are using?
You should try another one...

It can be tricky to get the hang of pulling down the lever and then pushing the button on top of the charge handle to release it also...
I always seem to try to do that in the other order.. ;-)
It's easy to just pull up the lever (squeeze it) to lock it in place, but the 2 step release I get backwards..
(Only been doing this for a few weeks tho, so hoping I'll get the hang of it soon )

desiv

Thanks desiv. I am using a ChargePoint Level 3 charger and it doesn't have a pull down lever and push button on top (as far as I can tell), such as the ones seen in this video (at 48 seconds):

link

I can't find an online video of the charing unit I have been using.

There is just one push button on top (and it's not really a button, it's more like a button covered by a large rubber covering which needs to be pressed in), and I press on this really hard, usually to no avail.

electriccarfan · Jan 19, 2015

Howard said:
Ok thanks electriccarfan.

So what dictates how the locking mechanism works on the quick charge port?

Do I have any personal control over the quick charge locking mechanism?

Otherwise, is this only controlled by the Quick Charge Level 3 chargin unit?

(Other than this, I've been quite impressed with the Quick charge. I went from 27% to 92% in 59 minutes in sub freezing temperature today.)

The locking on the Quick Charge port is controlled entirely by the charging unit. I think if you push the button and lever simultaneously the charge ends and you can pull it out. That should be all there is to it.

Unfortunately, you don't have any control over the quick charge locking mechanism from inside the car (like with the Lock button or anything). For the most part the only thing really locking in the handle are the lever & button.

Quick Charging is very nice (or so I've heard), it makes an EV more practical. I don't have any in my area so I can't Quick Charge unfortunately.

I thought you should know that it is not suggested to Quick Charge all the time though. The lifespan of your Leaf's battery will largely depend on how many times you've Quick Charged.

I believe that Nissan recommends about 4 Quick Charges a year to maintain long-term battery health. I would venture to guess that many people have gone over this amount though, so I wouldn't worry about it if you have.

But, I have also heard the opposite; that Quick Charging has little effect on long-term battery health.

So I guess its up to you!

desiv · Jan 19, 2015

Howard said:
I am using a ChargePoint Level 3 charger and it doesn't have a pull down lever and push button on top (as far as I can tell).

Ah, good to know.
The only Level 3's I've used so far are the Aerovironment ones...

Good luck!

desiv

cwerdna · Jan 19, 2015

electriccarfan said:
I believe that Nissan recommends about 4 Quick Charges a year to maintain long-term battery health.

Source? I've NEVER heard this before. Sounds like complete BS. Many Leafs don't even have the CHAdeMO inlet. What are they supposed to do?

electriccarfan said:
But, I have also heard the opposite; that Quick Charging has little effect on long-term battery health.

Correct.

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=14271" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

electriccarfan said:
Howard said:

So I guess this is a basic question. Do the lock functions (buttons) only apply to the trickle charge port, or does it also apply to the Quick Charge Port?

Click to expand...

The lock functions only apply to the Trickle Charge port. And it doesn't lock too well by the way.
...
But, I should say that this port is used for both Level 1 and Level 2 charging (not sure if you knew that). They share the same port (Level 1 120V "Trickle Charge" and Level 2 220V-240V charging).

Correct. And the auto, middle position (don't lock) and lock switch is new for '13+ Leafs. Pre-'13s didn't have it.

Howard said:
I am able to use the unit to charge my car. But the last two days, after the charge has completed, I am unable to remove the Level 3 charging plug. Both times I have had to wait on the phone while they restart the unit and then finally reboot the unit and after three times, I am pulling really hard and all of a sudden it releases. Shouldn't it automatically unlock when the charging is complete?

I have several questions. Do I have control over whether the plug is released?

I've used my CHAdeMO inlet about 12x. I've NEVER called ANYONE to reboot the unit. In fact, 2 of the 3 of them had NO number to call nor were they networked. 1 of them wasn't networked either, at least initially. So, even if I had someone to call, they wouldn't be able to reboot it or anything.

Re: the bolded part, DON'T DO THAT! We have enough trouble (at least in the Bay Area) with the DC FCs being broken, sometimes due to abuse and/or improper usage, breaking the handle. You also don't want to damage the inlet on your car. Hopefully neither has happened already.

Howard said:
I have several questions. Do I have control over whether the plug is released? I have had my lock set to auto, and I press 'unlock' on my key, but it still doesn't release. My lock switch in the car has three options, "auto", "lock" and "release". I didn't think of this, but if I press the "charge port lid" button, will this release the lock? Also, do these locking buttons apply to the trickle charge port as well as the for the quick charge port?

Is there some sequence of buttons I can press which will guarantee that I can remove the charging plug?

The 3 position switch has nothing to do w/the DC FC locking the connector to the CHAdeMO inlet. Ditto for the "charge port lid" open button.

There are many CHAdeMO handle designs (http://www.chademo.com/wp/chademo-connectors/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false

. I've only personally used one of the designs and am familiar with 2 others. Does the handle match one of these designs and their PROPER usage?

You need to STOP/END the session (NOT via the emergency stop button) or let it end by itself, both of which should unlock the connector and (this is separate) THEN properly remove/release the connector. See below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=317VrBDkBjg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqjMlblghEc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qbRG8n9_IY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - this new design seems MUCH better

Aren't there printed instructions and possibly even an animation on proper handle insertion and release?

If the handle isn't one of these, can you post a picture of it so others can assist or point out which one it matches at http://www.chademo.com/wp/chademo-connectors/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, if any?

You might also find http://www.chademo.com/wp/technology/details/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; interesting.

BTW, Chargepoint doesn't make any DC FCs. They can have their authentication equipment installed on some DC FCs, like the ones listed at http://www.chargepoint.com/express" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. I've used 3 of http://nissanqc.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. One of them eventually got networked onto Chargepoint but now I hear went to NRG eVgo.

Do you have a location for the DC FC on http://www.plugshare.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;? Can you paste the URL here (click the Share link)?

electriccarfan · Jan 20, 2015

cwerdna said:
electriccarfan said:

I believe that Nissan recommends about 4 Quick Charges a year to maintain long-term battery health.

Click to expand...

Source? I've NEVER heard this before. Sounds like complete BS. Many Leafs don't even have the CHAdeMO inlet. What are they supposed to do?

electriccarfan said:

But, I have also heard the opposite; that Quick Charging has little effect on long-term battery health.

Click to expand...

Correct.

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=14271" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

electriccarfan said:

Howard said:

So I guess this is a basic question. Do the lock functions (buttons) only apply to the trickle charge port, or does it also apply to the Quick Charge Port?

Click to expand...

The lock functions only apply to the Trickle Charge port. And it doesn't lock too well by the way.
...
But, I should say that this port is used for both Level 1 and Level 2 charging (not sure if you knew that). They share the same port (Level 1 120V "Trickle Charge" and Level 2 220V-240V charging).

Click to expand...

Correct. And the auto, middle position (don't lock) and lock switch is new for '13+ Leafs. Pre-'13s didn't have it.

Howard said:

I am able to use the unit to charge my car. But the last two days, after the charge has completed, I am unable to remove the Level 3 charging plug. Both times I have had to wait on the phone while they restart the unit and then finally reboot the unit and after three times, I am pulling really hard and all of a sudden it releases. Shouldn't it automatically unlock when the charging is complete?

I have several questions. Do I have control over whether the plug is released?

Click to expand...

I've used my CHAdeMO inlet about 12x. I've NEVER called ANYONE to reboot the unit. In fact, 2 of the 3 of them had NO number to call nor were they networked. 1 of them wasn't networked either, at least initially. So, even if I had someone to call, they wouldn't be able to reboot it or anything.

Re: the bolded part, DON'T DO THAT! We have enough trouble (at least in the Bay Area) with the DC FCs being broken, sometimes due to abuse and/or improper usage, breaking the handle. You also don't want to damage the inlet on your car. Hopefully neither has happened already.

Howard said:

I have several questions. Do I have control over whether the plug is released? I have had my lock set to auto, and I press 'unlock' on my key, but it still doesn't release. My lock switch in the car has three options, "auto", "lock" and "release". I didn't think of this, but if I press the "charge port lid" button, will this release the lock? Also, do these locking buttons apply to the trickle charge port as well as the for the quick charge port?

Is there some sequence of buttons I can press which will guarantee that I can remove the charging plug?

Click to expand...

The 3 position switch has nothing to do w/the DC FC locking the connector to the CHAdeMO inlet. Ditto for the "charge port lid" open button.

There are many CHAdeMO handle designs (http://www.chademo.com/wp/chademo-connectors/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false. I've only personally used one of the designs and am familiar with 2 others. Does the handle match one of these designs and their PROPER usage?

You need to STOP/END the session (NOT via the emergency stop button) or let it end by itself, both of which should unlock the connector and (this is separate) THEN properly remove/release the connector. See below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=317VrBDkBjg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqjMlblghEc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qbRG8n9_IY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - this new design seems MUCH better

Aren't there printed instructions and possibly even an animation on proper handle insertion and release?

If the handle isn't one of these, can you post a picture of it so others can assist or point out which one it matches at http://www.chademo.com/wp/chademo-connectors/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, if any?

You might also find http://www.chademo.com/wp/technology/details/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; interesting.

BTW, Chargepoint doesn't make any DC FCs. They can have their authentication equipment installed on some DC FCs, like the ones listed at http://www.chargepoint.com/express" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. I've used 3 of http://nissanqc.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. One of them eventually got networked onto Chargepoint but now I hear went to NRG eVgo.

Do you have a location for the DC FC on http://www.plugshare.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;? Can you paste the URL here (click the Share link)?

All they said was that it's not recommended to charge via "CHAdeMO DC- Quick Charging" more than 4 times a year to maintain the health of the pack. They said this because of the heat induced by Quick Charging. This is because it could lead to Heat Related capacity loss.

But, that really does make sense if you think about it, less stress on the battery equals longer lifespan. The best would be Level 1 charging since it's only a minimal 120V at 12A (Quick Charging is 480V at around 80A I believe). That's a lot of stress, in my opinion.

They weren't taking about Level 1 or 2. You can still charge with Level 1 and 2 as much as you want, according to Nissan.

Leaf owners without a CHAdeMO Quick Charge port would then obviously be confined to just charging through Level 1 or Level 2, that would be what they're supposed to do.

I couldn't find that original article (from a while ago) but I will keep looking. Here are other articles that state similar info.

http://livingleaf.info/2012/07/care-and-feeding-of-the-nissan-leaf-battery/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.plugincars.com/eight-tips-extend-battery-life-your-electric-car-107938.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I just mainly wanted to put that warning out there as the OP looked like he was using Quick Charging as his ONLY means of charging. But, I would be happy to be wrong about this. It seems that there's been a study on this recently:

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1090954_does-quick-charging-hurt-battery-life-total-miles-are-more-important" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

GerryAZ · Jan 20, 2015

For a while, Nissan was recommending against multiple DC quick charges in a single day, but I think they have backed off of that restriction. It is probably not a good idea to use DCQC more than once per day in high ambient temperatures, but I would not worry about one QC per day if you need to. Regarding release of the DCQC connector, make sure you stop the charging session before you try to unplug. Wait until the display says it is OK to unplug, then fully depress the release button. You should then be able to unplug without incident. The DCQC units securely lock the connector to the car when charging because there would be a spectacular arc (like a welder) if the connector came loose with high voltage and high current present. I have used QC over 50 times and have had a few cases where I was in a hurry and tried to press the release button before the DCQC unit had completed it's stop sequence (could not release until stop sequence completed, then connector released normally).

Gerry

TimLee · Jan 20, 2015

GerryAZ said:
... The DCQC units securely lock the connector to the car when charging because there would be a spectacular arc (like a welder) if the connector came loose with high voltage and high current present. ...
Gerry

I think they all latch in some way because the connector and cable is heavy and you do not want it to fall out.

But the pin configuration is such that control signal would be lost before the power connections (that could be carrying 120 amps) would open. So no arc potential just like J1772.

I have not used a Chargepoint.
Does sound like it may control the latch and OP isn't waiting long enough.

But as someone else said, if it is like the Nissan units you have to use two hands and slide the plastic piece down to allow the Yazaki latch handle to open when you push the release button.

It has to be released properly. Using force and pulling on it will eventually break it and/or the LEAF connection.

cwerdna · Jan 21, 2015

TimLee said:
It has to be released properly. Using force and pulling on it will eventually break it and/or the LEAF connection.

+1000

TimLee said:
I have not used a Chargepoint.
Does sound like it may control the latch and OP isn't waiting long enough.

But as someone else said, if it is like the Nissan units you have to use two hands and slide the plastic piece down to allow the Yazaki latch handle to open when you push the release button.

As I said earlier, Chargepoint doesn't make any DC FCs but they do make L2 EVSEs Their authentication equipment can be installed on the DC FCs at http://www.chargepoint.com/express" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

Originally the http://nissanqc.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; at http://www.plugshare.com/?location=14866" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (or http://api.plugshare.com/view/location/14866" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false

wasn't networked and required an employee fob to start. Then it got put on Chargepoint w/their authentication equipment but now apparently it's switched to NRG eVgo. This is all likely related to http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=15867" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

GerryAZ · Jan 21, 2015

According to the CHAdeMO web site, the mechanical latch secures the connector to the vehicle charge port and the mechanical latch is locked by an electrical lock during charging (regardless of connector type). You cannot unlatch the mechanical latch until the electrical lock releases. In addition to technical information, there are pictures and operating instructions for the various connectors on the CHAdeMO.com web site under Home, About Us, CHAdeMO Connectors.

Gerry

cwerdna · Jan 21, 2015

GerryAZ said:
there are pictures and operating instructions for the various connectors on the CHAdeMO.com web site under Home, About Us, CHAdeMO Connectors.

Thanks! I embarrassed to admit that even though I posted a link to the page, I didn't even notice the links to the operating instructions.

:shock: I've personally only seen 2 variants of the older-style crap Yazaki connectors that I posted videos to. The second video is actually produced by me, and inspired by the 1st one.

I've never even personally seen the better style w/the yellow button... but hey, I don't use my CHAdeMO port anymore. Not worth it due to the expensive and unreliable DC FC infrastructure in the Bay Area and me not usually going long distances.

TimLee · Jan 21, 2015

GerryAZ said:
In addition to technical information, there are pictures and operating instructions for the various connectors on the CHAdeMO.com web site under Home, About Us, CHAdeMO Connectors.

Gerry

Thanks Gerry.

It is too bad that they do not show the Yazaki design that the Nissan units use that has the plastic slide piece that has to be slid down to let the lever go up into the latched position to start charging, and has to be slid down simultaneously with pushing the release button to remove.

Person that was charging before a month ago was having trouble with the two simultaneous actions process that is required.

GerryAZ · Jan 21, 2015

TimLee said:
GerryAZ said:

In addition to technical information, there are pictures and operating instructions for the various connectors on the CHAdeMO.com web site under Home, About Us, CHAdeMO Connectors.

Gerry

Click to expand...

Thanks Gerry.

It is too bad that they do not show the Yazaki design that the Nissan units use that has the plastic slide piece that has to be slid down to let the lever go up into the latched position to start charging, and has to be slid down simultaneously with pushing the release button to remove.

Person that was charging before a month ago was having trouble with the two simultaneous actions process that is required.

Tim,

Take a look at the second page of the Yazaki 0.9 connector instructions. Is that the type that Nissan chargers are using? If so, it does look like it would be cumbersome to operate. I have not looked at the Nissan L3 chargers closely.

Gerry

ElectricEddy · Jan 21, 2015

cwerdna said:
electriccarfan said:

I believe that Nissan recommends about 4 Quick Charges a year to maintain long-term battery health.

Click to expand...

Source? I've NEVER heard this before. Sounds like complete BS. Many Leafs don't even have the CHAdeMO inlet. What are they supposed to do?

electriccarfan said:

But, I have also heard the opposite; that Quick Charging has little effect on long-term battery health.

Click to expand...

Correct.

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=14271" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

electriccarfan said:

Howard said:

So I guess this is a basic question. Do the lock functions (buttons) only apply to the trickle charge port, or does it also apply to the Quick Charge Port?

Click to expand...

The lock functions only apply to the Trickle Charge port. And it doesn't lock too well by the way.
...
But, I should say that this port is used for both Level 1 and Level 2 charging (not sure if you knew that). They share the same port (Level 1 120V "Trickle Charge" and Level 2 220V-240V charging).

Click to expand...

Correct. And the auto, middle position (don't lock) and lock switch is new for '13+ Leafs. Pre-'13s didn't have it.

Howard said:

I am able to use the unit to charge my car. But the last two days, after the charge has completed, I am unable to remove the Level 3 charging plug. Both times I have had to wait on the phone while they restart the unit and then finally reboot the unit and after three times, I am pulling really hard and all of a sudden it releases. Shouldn't it automatically unlock when the charging is complete?

I have several questions. Do I have control over whether the plug is released?

Click to expand...

I've used my CHAdeMO inlet about 12x. I've NEVER called ANYONE to reboot the unit. In fact, 2 of the 3 of them had NO number to call nor were they networked. 1 of them wasn't networked either, at least initially. So, even if I had someone to call, they wouldn't be able to reboot it or anything.

Re: the bolded part, DON'T DO THAT! We have enough trouble (at least in the Bay Area) with the DC FCs being broken, sometimes due to abuse and/or improper usage, breaking the handle. You also don't want to damage the inlet on your car. Hopefully neither has happened already.

Howard said:

I have several questions. Do I have control over whether the plug is released? I have had my lock set to auto, and I press 'unlock' on my key, but it still doesn't release. My lock switch in the car has three options, "auto", "lock" and "release". I didn't think of this, but if I press the "charge port lid" button, will this release the lock? Also, do these locking buttons apply to the trickle charge port as well as the for the quick charge port?

Is there some sequence of buttons I can press which will guarantee that I can remove the charging plug?

Click to expand...

The 3 position switch has nothing to do w/the DC FC locking the connector to the CHAdeMO inlet. Ditto for the "charge port lid" open button.

There are many CHAdeMO handle designs (http://www.chademo.com/wp/chademo-connectors/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false. I've only personally used one of the designs and am familiar with 2 others. Does the handle match one of these designs and their PROPER usage?

You need to STOP/END the session (NOT via the emergency stop button) or let it end by itself, both of which should unlock the connector and (this is separate) THEN properly remove/release the connector. See below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=317VrBDkBjg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqjMlblghEc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qbRG8n9_IY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - this new design seems MUCH better

Aren't there printed instructions and possibly even an animation on proper handle insertion and release?

If the handle isn't one of these, can you post a picture of it so others can assist or point out which one it matches at http://www.chademo.com/wp/chademo-connectors/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, if any?

You might also find http://www.chademo.com/wp/technology/details/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; interesting.

BTW, Chargepoint doesn't make any DC FCs. They can have their authentication equipment installed on some DC FCs, like the ones listed at http://www.chargepoint.com/express" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. I've used 3 of http://nissanqc.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. One of them eventually got networked onto Chargepoint but now I hear went to NRG eVgo.

Do you have a location for the DC FC on http://www.plugshare.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;? Can you paste the URL here (click the Share link)?

The new design looks great, however... the machine itself displayed " This Unit is Currently Not in Service".

Howard · Jan 22, 2015

electriccarfan said:
...
I just mainly wanted to put that warning out there as the OP looked like he was using Quick Charging as his ONLY means of charging. But, I would be happy to be wrong about this. It seems that there's been a study on this recently:

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1090954_does-quick-charging-hurt-battery-life-total-miles-are-more-important" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks for this link electriccarfan.

BTW, I have stopped using the Level 3 Quick Charge, since that day you all mentioned this to me.

We've been using the trickle charge since then and it's been working great.

I hope I don't see a significant rise in my power bill.

2015 Nissal Leaf S - Level 3 charging issues

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