I have a 2013 with 2100 miles that already has a bad cell pair according to the equation provided by Tick Tock in the thread
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=11399&start=10
I have seen many posts about high cell variations, but I don't think I've seen any that have this high of a variation or where it is just ONE cell pair that is extraordinarily low.
Here are several pictures of the battery pack draining down on a day that I decided to turtle the car. the last 6% SOC was used by the heater while parked safely in my garage. This also means that from 15.8% down to 9% SOC the battery was drained very steadily and at the low rate of about 3 kW.
This screenshot is early in the discharge when cell #25 easily meets the criteria of being a faulty cell.
The cell variation gets progressively worse, and this screenshot was taken when I finally hit turtle. I had to use the histogram view because the other view was goofy.
The next day and most of the day after that, my entire pack was being shunted. That did seem to help, but cell pair #25 was still often low and definitely so under 40% SOC or so.
This cell pair #25 is nearly always the lowest cell voltage in my pack. I looked at all the data that my Leaf Spy has logged, and #25 is the lowest or next lowest over 50% of the time. The only times when it is not lowest or nearly the lowest is when I have a huge balancing issue due to braking or quick starts as shown in this screen shot just after coming to a stop at a light
Of course I've taken the car in (before I had the Leaf Spy data) and they said nothing was wrong. I even took it in at VLBW and insisted they test the battery. I don't really know exactly what they did test or measure because when I talked to the tech afterwards, I was sure he didn't understand what he was doing. I'm also pretty sure they fully charged it before even hooking up the OBD.
A couple other questions I have for you experts on the forum are:
1) What will be the outward effects of a bad cell pair and can a bad cell pair adversely affect the rest of the pack.
2) Is the 3rd screenshot (8:19PM) typical of when the car is being braked or is this evidence of another problem?
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=11399&start=10
I have seen many posts about high cell variations, but I don't think I've seen any that have this high of a variation or where it is just ONE cell pair that is extraordinarily low.
Here are several pictures of the battery pack draining down on a day that I decided to turtle the car. the last 6% SOC was used by the heater while parked safely in my garage. This also means that from 15.8% down to 9% SOC the battery was drained very steadily and at the low rate of about 3 kW.
This screenshot is early in the discharge when cell #25 easily meets the criteria of being a faulty cell.
The cell variation gets progressively worse, and this screenshot was taken when I finally hit turtle. I had to use the histogram view because the other view was goofy.
The next day and most of the day after that, my entire pack was being shunted. That did seem to help, but cell pair #25 was still often low and definitely so under 40% SOC or so.
This cell pair #25 is nearly always the lowest cell voltage in my pack. I looked at all the data that my Leaf Spy has logged, and #25 is the lowest or next lowest over 50% of the time. The only times when it is not lowest or nearly the lowest is when I have a huge balancing issue due to braking or quick starts as shown in this screen shot just after coming to a stop at a light
Of course I've taken the car in (before I had the Leaf Spy data) and they said nothing was wrong. I even took it in at VLBW and insisted they test the battery. I don't really know exactly what they did test or measure because when I talked to the tech afterwards, I was sure he didn't understand what he was doing. I'm also pretty sure they fully charged it before even hooking up the OBD.
A couple other questions I have for you experts on the forum are:
1) What will be the outward effects of a bad cell pair and can a bad cell pair adversely affect the rest of the pack.
2) Is the 3rd screenshot (8:19PM) typical of when the car is being braked or is this evidence of another problem?