Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote: Dooglas wrote:
Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:Actually, I don't recall there being a guarantee of a _new_ battery. I think the wording was that they'd restore or replace it with something that wasn't down 4-bars. Kind of like refurbished hard drives under a 5 year warranty.
If you read other posts on this site, you will see that warranty claims after loss of 4 bars are routinely resolved by replacement of the battery pack with a new one.
I was talking about the 30kwh packs here. They received new wording on the warranty. I might've missed it, but I don't recall seeing anyone post about getting a new battery yet.
And per Nissan's updated warranty ( page 8 - http://juicedcar.com/wp-content/uploads ... ooklet.pdf
"This warranty covers any repairs needed to return
battery capacity to a level of nine remaining bars
on the vehicle’s battery capacity level gauge. If
possible, the lithium-ion battery components will
be repaired or replaced, and the original lithiumion
battery will be returned to the vehicle. If necessary,
the lithium-ion battery will be replaced with
either a new or remanufactured lithium-ion battery.
Any repair or replacement made under this
Lithium-Ion Battery Capacity Coverage may not
return your lithium-ion battery to an “as new” condition
with all 12 battery capacity bars, but it will
provide the vehicle with a capacity level of nine
bars or more on the battery capacity level gauge."
Regarding the bolded parts, I'm not sure what "new wording" you're talking about. The first warranty booklet to mention a capacity warranty was for model year '13 and it has the same language (see page 8 of https://owners.nissanusa.com/content/te ... ooklet.pdf
). Not sure why you're going to juicedcar or whatever for warranty booklets. The official place is via https://owners.nissanusa.com/nowners/na ... nualsGuide
Correct. Nissan has always left it open-ended about new or used battery via the above verbiage. When the capacity warranty was official announced for '11 and '12 Leaf drivers, it also was left opened-ended: viewtopic.php?t=13192
However, those who were part of the Klee class action settlement basically required those w/affected (lost 4 bars before capacity warranty expiration) '11 and '12s to receive the latest technology battery to resist heat degradation (example reference: viewtopic.php?t=18905
), so they of course had no choice to provide a new one to those folks. For anyone who got replacements via the capacity warranty on '13 or newer, it became a grey area.
So far, it seems like only new batteries have gone in.
I'm pretty sure that Andy Palmer (possibly in the video at viewtopic.php?t=10257
) has mentioned that it isn't their intent to just put in a 9 bar battery to replace an 8 bar one as they'd rather not have to replace more than once.
Numerous 30 kWH 4 bar losers have already gotten replacement packs.