neofightr
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newly purchased e-plus impressions

Fri May 10, 2019 3:47 pm

I know I am not the first to post impressions for the 2019 so I will just highlight some things that may have not been noted coming from a 2014 leaf SL owner.
I am now the happy owner of a White/black interior SL plus trim.

-As expected performance is outstanding. When flooring the car you better have both hands on the wheel because the torque affects steering stability from 0-40mph. Not complaining since I won't be flooring the car very often. I suspect this car is no more than .2 to .5 seconds slower than the bolt because the leaf is a bigger heavier car.

The interior is definitely of better quality overall from last gen. Based on some professional reviews I have seen, all signs indicate the interior being better than the bolt.

The cabin is much quieter and the car's suspension much softer than last gen.

-The console displays are a very nice jump coming from a last gen SL and I am sure they are similar to 2018.
The driving console reverts back to an analog speedometer (don't know why the digital readout was not more popular) but the design engineers made up for that by providing a very slick secondary interface on the left side. It's basically a smaller secondary console display. It has a lot going for it.

-Four unique pages for the battery that you page through vertically (main page categories are horizontally flipped)
-Another page that has a functional compass with weather and road/speedlimit info. I like how the speedlimit icon mimics real life signs.
-Next main page has a graphical display for the propilot feedback. Showing a car graphic for your car as well as the car in front of you to indicate that the computer is tracking the car in front for collision avoidance.
-An audio page, note: when changing stations regardless of what the display is showing you will see the station info overlay it for a few seconds to show the new station info.
-A sub page that gives you basically an electric tachometer to compliment the speedometer to the right.
-A menu page for various settings categories.
-A charger programming page. (This is huge for me because I can fiddle with charging and air condition schedules without needing the car on or main console display on). Basically this page stays on after your turn off the car for a few minutes. Great design!

All this on this mini-display on the driver console. So basically if you are not using the navigation map features you can turn off the main console display and rely solely on the driver's display, very impressive feature set overall.

-The main 8"console is graphically impressive with customization button selections at the bottom meaning that you can swap in or out shortcut buttons much like a touchpad interface. My only disappointment would be the sluggish response of the top menu. The good news is that the touch entry for the navigation inputs was respectable in responsiveness and much better than previous gen. The map system overall feels more modern, more responsive and up to date and the apple car play feature is very nice since you can actually use a different map navigation display similar to apple. I am sure the andriod feature set is just as good.

The propilot feature set is not bad. I appreciate the collision warning features the most. It's also nice to know that the car has the potential to stop the car before you rear-end someone or prevent you from running over a ped while backing up.

Finally we come to range, it's the only reason to buy a new leaf if you have an older one. Having a 60kw battery is a godsend. I now have that warm and fuzzy that I missed from my gas driving days when I transitioned to the leaf. Even though I never ran out of juice in my 2014 leaf, I always had to stay on my guard when it came to planning out daily trips. I hated the fact that I always had to remember to charge the night before long trips. Those days are finally gone.

One issue I will need to keep an eye on is the range guesstimates being awfully generous. I am getting estimates of 220+mi range at times when driving in eco mode with 80% charge. This is way off and I have no desire or time to test this out.
But overall very happy with the car.

Now I have the best of both worlds, gas-driving range and electric convenience, cost savings and efficiency.

For those fans of the last generation LEAF, the new LEAF @60kw is well worth it. The 2018 owners should wait for the next major release in the next few years. I suspect given Nissan's record no sooner than 4 years before a major revision. ;)

Jimdav
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Re: newly purchased e-plus impressions

Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:30 pm

We're getting use to owning an EV (SV plus 2019)... so far everything works as expected. No range anxiety and we are enjoying the quiet ride. Being 6'2", however, I find the leg room on the front passenger side (driver side is ok) is a tad cramped. Unfortunately, there isn't a clean way to modify the seat mechanism to extend the seat backwards more than it does. Perhaps I can remove the glove box door. Does anyone know how to remove the glove box door in 2018 model?

Anyone know where to buy a doughnut spare wheel/tire for a 2019 leaf SV plus that has 17" wheels?

In summary, we like the car ... nothing to report that is different than what is mentioned in online reviews.

cwerdna
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Re: newly purchased e-plus impressions

Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:55 pm

In the past, for gen 1 Leafs, people were getting Nissan Altima and/or Quest spares from junkyards.

Google for site:mynissanleaf.com spare tire altima. I wonder if that'll still work with 17" wheels and the bolt pattern is correct. And, if there will be issues with high weight (max load per tire) of the Plus w/an Altima spare. Quest spares I'd guess shouldn't have a max load issue.

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Re: newly purchased e-plus impressions

Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:59 pm

cwerdna wrote:In the past, for gen 1 Leafs, people were getting Nissan Altima and/or Quest spares from junkyards.

Google for site:mynissanleaf.com spare tire altima. I wonder if that'll still work with 17" wheels and the bolt pattern is correct. And, if there will be issues with high weight (max load per tire) of the Plus w/an Altima spare. Quest spares I'd guess shouldn't have a max load issue.


Because my Juke wheels fit my 2018, we know that Leaf "Too" uses the same wheel dimensions. The only question is whether or not they would have bothered to change anything for 2019 or for ePlus. I doubt it but don't know for sure.
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Re: newly purchased e-plus impressions

Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:44 pm

I am also 6’2” and find the passenger seat a bit better then the 13 we had. They changed the floor a bit which made the resting of your left foot a little nicer. Driving position in our SV plus is a bit nicer too, though the center console “wings” were not necessary. 2 more cup holders would have been better.

My 3 kids (17,15, almost 11) say the back is more comfortable (yes we make all 3 sit in the back), they feel it is a bit wider then the 13 and the overall room better.

We are testing out the range in 2 weeks with a coming 230 mile and 250 mile run between stops. All highway. Should be fun to see if we can do it.
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Re: newly purchased e-plus impressions

Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:56 pm

We are testing out the range in 2 weeks with a coming 230 mile and 250 mile run between stops. All highway. Should be fun to see if we can do it.


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Re: newly purchased e-plus impressions

Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:33 am

Can you talk about the financials? Why e+ over other cars?
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Re: newly purchased e-plus impressions

Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:22 am

The EPA has low balled the LEAF as usual but its partially Nissan's fault as the hidden reserve has grown along with the pack. This makes transitioning from previous LEAF to newer LEAF a bit of a challenge especially since LBW and VLBW have changed. For range purposes, I would take a comfortable "usable" kwh rating of say 58 kwh and use your miles/kwh to gauge true range or you can elect to do the easy way and get LEAF Spy.

The newer LEAF is heavier but more efficient and the additional drive modes will help with that. I found my greatest efficiency happens with B mode most of the time with E Pedal for sudden decelerations or full stops. B mode regen is more aggressive than previous models which is to be expected since a bigger pack can handle more power.
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Triggerhappy007
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Re: newly purchased e-plus impressions

Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:47 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote: This makes transitioning from previous LEAF to newer LEAF a bit of a challenge especially since LBW and VLBW have changed.

Can you give us more insight on the LBW and VLBW on your 2018 Leaf? At what SOC will get you into turtle mode?
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Jerryr
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Re: newly purchased e-plus impressions

Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:32 pm

DanCar wrote:Can you talk about the financials? Why e+ over other cars?


I traded a 2018 SV w/40 kWh battery for a 2019 SL E+. My sole reason was I travel between 2 homes 125 miles apart. The 2018 w/40 kWh battery might do it but barely and as the battery degraded it would not make it.

With the extra range of the 62 kWh battery we not only use it to commute between the homes but also use it for 98% of our other driving needs.

I’ve put more miles on the 2019 e+ in one month than I did on the 2018 w/40 kWh battery in 6 months. Plus I’m no longer driving my Ford F-350 diesel between the homes. The diesel cost me 24 cents/mile for fuel and oil changes (13 qts of oil every 5,000 miles and 17 mpg in diesel fuel) The Leaf cost me about 2.5 cents/mile for electric with our 10 cents/kWh rate (4 mi/kWh average)

Round trip between the homes in the truck cost $57 for fuel and oil. The Leaf cost me only about $6 for the same round trip. I saved $430 in fuel and oil the last 30 days driving the Leaf the 2,000 miles currently on the odometer.

Running into town at the cabin is a 60 mile round trip. We don’t feel guilty making that trip in the Leaf.
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