Feeling a little deflated with the 2019 upgrades

I purchased a 2018 Leaf SV with the tech package and a couple of other things back in September. Love the car, wish it had a little longer range. The thing is I paid 32k + $7500 tax back money and 0% financing. Now the 2019 comes out with that extra range for the same(ish) money. Oh well...
I read that the battery pack is the same size so maybe I can pop one in my Leaf in 5 or 6 years.

The ePlus SV with Tech and All Weather packages will be something like $5k more expensive, if I'm reading the hints correctly.

Yeah... I'm confused by the OP's post.

cwerdna said:

Yeah... I'm confused by the OP's post.

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(S)he is assuming two things: that the ePlus Leafs will cost the same (Nissan hasn't promised that at all) as the 40kwh Leafs, and that the 62kwh pack will fit in a 40kwh Leaf. Maybe on that, but not without modifying the underside of the car.

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The first item sounds pretty unlikely given European and Japanese e+ pricing. The latter seems really unlikely.

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The first item sounds pretty unlikely given European and Japanese e+ pricing. The latter seems really unlikely.

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Agreed. There will be a choice between higher value features (more range, more power, etc) for more money, and good value features with lower performance for less money.

OP can look at https://insideevs.com/nissan-announces-leaf-e-price-europe-japan/ or flip between 40 and 62 kWh prices at https://www3.nissan.co.jp/vehicles/new/leaf/specifications.html for at the same trim levels that exist w/both battery capacities: X and G.

Google makes for a good currency converter. Example:
3,661,200 jpy in usd --> $33,170 USD right now
4,162,320 jpy in usd --> $37,706 USD right now

And, I'd expect that 40 kWh Leafs in the US will continue to be discounted, if not more heavily than before while 62 kWh Leafs probably won't be discounted much or at all at the beginning.

The the 2019 leaf with the same trim level in packages is mine is in stock and for sale here in South Carolina. The price is $37,200. There is no special financing and like one of you said there probably is no deals right now on the 2019. So all-in-all I guess I did good.
I read that the battery box was not changed at all to accommodate the new higher wattage battery. The article was on extremetech. Com and Joel is usually pretty good about vetting his sou

Thick8 said:

The the 2019 leaf with the same trim level in packages is mine is in stock and for sale here in South Carolina. The price is $37,200.

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Are you confused? AFAIK, Nissan hasn't even announced the US price on the '19 62 kWh Leaf Plus (e+).

'19 40 kWh Leaf w/150 mile EPA range rating has been shipping for awhile. The only thing added on the '19 Leaf (40 kWh version) was rear door alert: https://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/presskits/us-2019-nissan-leaf-press-kit.

I'm not aware of '19 62 kWh (with 200+ (215 to 226?) mile EPA range rating) even being on dealer lots yet.

I also spoke to a Japanese rep at CES in January who mentioned to me not only the increase in vehicle height but also the reduction in ground clearance vs. the 40 kWh version: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=545740#p545740.

The 62kwh ePlus Leaf will be on sale at some US dealerships on March 1st. The 2019 Leaf available now, as Cwerdna just noted, is essentially the same car as the 2018.

Thick8 said:

I read that the battery pack is the same size so maybe I can pop one in my Leaf in 5 or 6 years.

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Based upon how Nissan handled that for the past battery upgrades, the chance of that is pretty low.

Thick8 said:

I purchased a 2018 Leaf SV with the tech package and a couple of other things back in September.

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cwerdna said:

Thick8 said:

The the 2019 leaf with the same trim level in packages is mine is in stock and for sale here in South Carolina. The price is $37,200.

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Are you confused? AFAIK, Nissan hasn't even announced the US price on the '19 62 kWh Leaf Plus (e+).

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Ok. Leaf Plus prices were announced today at https://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/releases/maker-of-the-world-s-best-selling-electric-vehicle-announces-pricing-for-the-new-longer-range-nissan-leaf-plus.

SV Plus MSRP starts at $38,510 + $895 destination charge. There is an SV PLUS technology package per Specs tab of https://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/presskits/us-2019-nissan-leaf-plus. AFAIK, we don't know the prices of the packages yet,

For '19 SV non-Plus, SV tech package MSRP was $2,200.

Since the base model Tesla 3 is now official at $35K and with the Upgraded interior $37K, which one would you have, a Leaf + or a model 3?

Admittedly, there is a difference in the rebates available but it looks to me that the 3 is amuch better value.

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Admittedly, there is a difference in the rebates available but it looks to me that the 3 is amuch better value.

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You mean tax credit? It's $3750 for Teslas now (https://www.tesla.com/support/incentives) and $7500 for Nissans.

Eventually, nobody will be paying MSRP for a Leaf Plus just as nobody should be paying MSRP for a 40 kWh Leaf.

Also, each color of the 3 except black costs extra, from $1500 to $2500 more. I don't buy black cars.

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johnlocke said:

Admittedly, there is a difference in the rebates available but it looks to me that the 3 is amuch better value.

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You mean tax credit? It's $3750 for Teslas now (https://www.tesla.com/support/incentives) and $7500 for Nissans.

Eventually, nobody will be paying MSRP for a Leaf Plus just as nobody should be paying MSRP for a 40 kWh Leaf.

Also, each color of the 3 except black costs extra, from $1500 to $2500 more. I don't buy black cars.

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That may be true but the depreciation on a leaf is huge. That might not matter if you normally drive a car into the ground but most people don't do that. And given the history of the Leaf, driving it into the ground might not take that long. With $8500 cost for battery replacement, it's one and done when the battery fails. That larger Federal tax credit is harder to take advantage of. By rebates I meant Fed tax credits. state rebates, and utility company incentives. It varies by state and by utility company. I saw a rebate from a Colorado utility of $10K on a Leaf specifically. It's hard to beat something like that. Unless Nissan starts giving Leafs away (massive discounts and factory rebates like in the past) they are going to be hard sales to make.

Thick8 said:

... Now the 2019 comes out with that extra range for the same(ish) money. Oh well...

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The 2019 Leaf E+ coming was well known. Perhaps in the future you can ask in a forum before pulling the trigger.

DanCar said:

Thick8 said:

... Now the 2019 comes out with that extra range for the same(ish) money. Oh well...

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The 2019 Leaf E+ coming was well known. Perhaps in the future you can ask in a forum before pulling the trigger.

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It was known from day 1 of '18 Leaf intro that a longer range version would be coming.

It was even briefly referenced in the unveiling in Japan press conference video. The press release that day https://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/presskits/us-2018-nissan-leaf-press-kit said "For those who want more excitement and performance, Nissan will also offer a new higher power, longer range version at a higher price for the 2019 model year", but it unfortunately obviously didn't come out of the beginning of MY 19.

I even talked about the slides that were shown at an EVent that I attended in Sept 2017 at http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=24379&p=515631&hilit=slides+event+marketing#p515631.

But, it's not the "same(ish)" money. Plus version costs thousands more.