jlv wrote: And with Electrify America installing 4 or 8 CCS, where just one is a shared CCS/CHAdeMO, it's becoming obvious that CHAdeMO is an also-ran.
Honda dropped Chademo in Sept. 2017. That left the LEAF, Kia Soul-EV and Mitsubishi iMIEV as Chademo BEVs. i-MIEV production was ended in August 2017, leaving Kia and Nissan. Now Kia is switching to CCS for 2019. So Chademo will finally be a LEAF-only connector. My hope would be that Nissan changes the Smyrna GA plant for the 60kwhr 2020 model, to either:
- have CCS where the J1775 is now (so the car would be dual Chademo+CCS)
- or to let customers order the connector that works best for their part of the country
- or change from Chademo to CCS, but leave Chademo as a special option (they will still have the Chademo parts in their domestic Japan model)
To be fair, That "1 Chademo plus 7 CCS chargers" being installed by Electrify America does not reflect BEV driver demand: there are still more Chademo BEVs on the roads in the US than CCS BEVs. If you exclude Tesla and PHEV vehicles, then I think you'd get about
- 124k LEAFs sold in the US (most but not all with Chademo);
- about 38k Bolts with CCS
- 37k BMW i3 with CCS
- Soul EV, eGolf, Focus-E (each less than 5k, I think)
...so maybe 115k Chademo vs 85k CCS (ballpark guess)
Going forwards, CCS BEVs are outselling Chademo BEVs, but by less than 1k cars per month. At that rate, it would take 2.5 years for CCS to catch-up. But my guess is that Nissan is going to have a hard time staying only 1k cars/month behind all CCS sales combined. If _any_ non-Tesla manufacturer is able to produce a new BEV model in high volume and sell in all 50 states, they will get some market share.