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Install Double Batteries on Nissan LEAF Increasing Range to 160 Miles?

Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:12 am

Interesting ....

This Company Offers To Install Double Batteries on Nissan LEAF Increasing Range to 160 Miles

http://www.torquenews.com/1/company-off ... -160-miles
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Re: Install Double Batteries on Nissan LEAF Increasing Range to 160 Miles?

Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:27 am

My initial thought is that they must be using wrecked car battery packs for this to be a profitable business venture. It will be interesting to see if it proves out.
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Re: Install Double Batteries on Nissan LEAF Increasing Range to 160 Miles?

Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:27 pm

Who will be the first to take the risk on an unproven $6500 battery pack? I think I'll save my money for an OEM 60kWh Leaf (or similar)
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Re: Install Double Batteries on Nissan LEAF Increasing Range to 160 Miles?

Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:39 pm

It's certainly possible. We just need a guinea pig!
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Re: Install Double Batteries on Nissan LEAF Increasing Range to 160 Miles?

Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:30 am

It would be great to double up the capacity but... we also need to address the durability of the batteries that are without cooling in warmer climates. Even on a 2015 battery in Arizona, we are only getting maybe 3.5 years to a drop of 4 bars.

Sure, if you have double battery a car can degrade a bit more before only being able to go 40 miles, but still sitting or moving there are those constant calendar losses especially from heat. If I could only go 5 to 7 years before complete battery replacement with a drop to 4 bars, it would cost $13,000 to start fresh again with a double battery. Is that worth it?

A double battery will only be worth the added expense if both batteries can be cooled IMO. Which also brings me to the 30kWh battery pack. It needs to be cooled or it needs have a better chemistry than the lizard. We don't know if the chemistry is better for heat. The lizard is not proving better in the heat of Arizona.
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Re: Install Double Batteries on Nissan LEAF Increasing Range to 160 Miles?

Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:51 am

That's going to be a very heavy Leaf too.
With all of the 200-mile range vehicles coming out in a couple years, I can't imagine that it would be worth it.
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Re: Install Double Batteries on Nissan LEAF Increasing Range to 160 Miles?

Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:07 am

With the weight increase, you are not going to get near double the range...
59,991 miles/12 bars/289 Gids/68.54 AHr/101% SOH/101.64% Hx 7May15 w/ new Lizard (barely made the warranty).
71,770 miles/12 bars/256 Gids/59.04 AHr/88% SOH/87.92% Hx 3Mar16 at lease return.

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Re: Install Double Batteries on Nissan LEAF Increasing Range to 160 Miles?

Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:58 am

Regardless of range claims the price point is far too low to build a reliable and safe system. How is the weight increase and weight distribution handled, packaging, safety systems, etc? This is pretty comical and scary. I wonder who will actually be the first person to fall for this.
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Re: Install Double Batteries on Nissan LEAF Increasing Range to 160 Miles?

Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:54 pm

That's going to be a very heavy Leaf too.
With all of the 200-mile range vehicles coming out in a couple years, I can't imagine that it would be worth it.
If you buy a new car (Say you pay at least $24,000) you'll be paying over $2,000 just in sales tax alone. Throw in delivery/prep & there's a few hundred more. Count that cost down off the new pack/installation.
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Re: Install Double Batteries on Nissan LEAF Increasing Range to 160 Miles?

Mon May 01, 2017 10:55 am

Sent to me via the contact form, so not really a reliable/confirmable source, so take it as is:

Adding an EXTRA Leaf Battery in trunk from Hybrid Industries!
You had a forum that addressed this upgrade.
The company is a scam basically! I had it done. WHAT A MISTAKE A huge battery higher than the back seat was put in. Unenclosed FIRE HAZARD
By your gas peddle was 2, 2 " cables installed. You had to manually switch to go from 1 battery to the next. SAFETY ISSUE
When you switched the cables the car computer wouldn't talk to the new battery unless you disconnected the car battery to reset the cars computer.
DOESN'T WORK
They picked it up and delivered it to my house. When I saw it, I told them I would not pay for the hack job! The owner Patrick Hossein, said he would take my car back and take out the battery and give me my car back. The next day I got a text saying If I don't give him $1000. then I will never see my car again. I went to the address in Costa Mesa from my receipt and there was no company at that address. I don't think they have a location in Las Vegas either. I now have a reported STOLEN CAR REPORT and they are looking for my car. Please post this so no one else gets scammed.
I should have read your posts first! Lowell

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