ESA1178
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SV or SL

Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:20 pm

We currently own a 2004 Saturn Vue. Sale value of $6000.
Also a 2008 VW Jetta, with $8000 left on the loan (Sale value $12000)
We are considering selling both and getting 2 X Leaf SV on the current $199.00
lease offer. My question is:

Is there any major difference 'tween the SV & SL?

Thanks!

Mark
Sacramento, CA

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Re: SV or SL

Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:36 pm

http://www.nissanusa.com/leaf-electric- ... ection_nav

The biggest feature differences would be the (CHAdeMO) quick charge port and rear view camera. The CHAdeMO port cannot be added to an SV after purchase.
'13 blue Leaf SV w/QC + premium packages; '06 Prius

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: SV or SL

Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:06 pm

if you dont have quick charge stations around you it might be hard to justify the additional expense but if you are dumping gas completely at least one SL is HIGHLY recommended. Quick charge gives me an additional 30-35 miles of range in 11 minutes. this can change the LEAF from local to regional.

using quick charge for interstate travel is not the real value here.
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Re: SV or SL

Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:12 pm

A bold move, but I suggest selling one gasoline burner, and getting one LEAF. Then, after a month or two with that, consider the next step.

You need to learn all the intricacies of how the car will work for you.
JAMP JR tm, the low cost 40 amp J1772 charge station
JESLAtm, the premium 40 amp J1772 portable charging solution
JLongtm the J1772 extension cord
JdeMOtm, the CHAdeMO outlet for your electric car
JDaptortm, the J1772 power outlet

www.QuickChargePower.com

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Re: SV or SL

Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:26 pm

TonyWilliams wrote:A bold move, but I suggest selling one gasoline burner, and getting one LEAF. Then, after a month or two with that, consider the next step.

You need to learn all the intricacies of how the car will work for you.


I agree with Tony; If an emergency arises requiring you to suddenly drive 75+ miles, you'll need an ICE. Regarding the SV/SL issue, I have the SL, but have never had a chance to use the Quick Charge, in a year and a half. At the rate QC's are being installed, I'll probably die of old age before I have one conveniently available for my use. :(
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ESA1178
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Re: SV or SL

Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:29 pm

Your right about keeping one gas car. We will probably keep the Jetta.
I'm not sure if Nissan has a similar lease offer for the SL, at least I cannot find one..
I live in California....

Thanks!


Mark

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Re: SV or SL

Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:33 pm

ESA1178 wrote:Your right about keeping one gas car. We will probably keep the Jetta.
I'm not sure if Nissan has a similar lease offer for the SL, at least I cannot find one..
I live in California....

Thanks!


Mark


i am guessing there is. Nissan would MUCH rather lease you an SL
44,598 miles on 2011 LEAF (retired) 2013 LEAF;23,340 miles. Ah; 61.94, Hx; 95.82% kwh 20.8 @70% estimate; 120,847 miles
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Re: SV or SL

Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:26 pm

FWIW we find lease SV+ICE to be a good combination. Initially I was concerned I'd regret not getting the L3 capability, now all the capacity loss worries serve as a reminder that the current Leaf is just a point in time in a technology that will be evolving, and I'm happy to have kept that extra money in reserve for the next thing.

Keep it simple, charge at home, take the gas car when you have to go beyond Leaf range. (Assuming you are a two-car-two-driver household and one of you will be well served on a daily basis with a conservative estimate of Leaf range)
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Re: SV or SL

Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:40 pm

LTLFTcomposite wrote:FWIW we find lease SV+ICE to be a good combination. Initially I was concerned I'd regret not getting the L3 capability, now all the capacity loss worries serve as a reminder that the current Leaf is just a point in time in a technology that will be evolving, and I'm happy to have kept that extra money in reserve for the next thing.

Keep it simple, charge at home, take the gas car when you have to go beyond Leaf range. (Assuming you are a two-car-two-driver household and one of you will be well served on a daily basis with a conservative estimate of Leaf range)

My thoughts exactly, and glad I bought an SV. I think there is one L3 charger somewhere in Los Angeles, but I don't know where it is and haven't had occasion to use it. I do take the ICE out about 5 times a year (plus a few weeks in the summer when the temp is really hot to "baby" the Leaf battery).
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Re: SV or SL

Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:51 am

Get the LEAF and then get the Datsun when it comes out for less than $5000. :lol:


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