LeftieBiker
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Location: Upstate New York, US

Re: Buying Nissan Leaf as my first EV

Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:43 pm

Are you going to refund their money if they buy a Tesla and it turns out to have lousy batteries and Tesla goes bankrupt? Nissan is on the hook for 8 years/100k miles.


Since I'm not urging anyone to buy a Tesla you are just getting defensive rather than do something as unthinkable as change your mind or your actions. I had enough of that on Usenet, so back in the filter with you.

Folks, take what WetEV writes with a grain of salt. Do the same with anyone else here, including me. Just remember that caution results in less heartbreak than does blind trust in some nameless internet entity.
Scarlet Ember 2018 Leaf SL W/ Pro Pilot
2009 Vectrix VX-1 W/18 Leaf modules, & 3 EZIP E-bicycles.
PLEASE don't PM me with Leaf questions. Just post in the topic that seems most appropriate.

ipuzunov
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Re: Buying Nissan Leaf as my first EV

Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:43 am

There’s an update, folks.
The dealer sent me a photo of the dash.
Does it mean that the car has lost 2 bars in just 2000 miles? If that’s the case, it’s terrible news.

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RonDawg
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Delivery Date: 11 Jan 2013
Leaf Number: 027089
Location: SoCal

Re: Buying Nissan Leaf as my first EV

Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:56 pm

Yes that is a "two bar loser" and yes 2k miles is very quick. Is this the 2016 SV you mentioned earlier? If so this has the 30 kWH battery that has a reputation for rapid degradation that has been mentioned here.
Blue Ocean 2012 Leaf SV, lost that 1st bar at 34 months/26,435 miles. Lease returned 2 months later. Final LeafStat figures: 225 Gids, 17.44 kWH, SOC 91.89%, SOH 82.36%, 69.49% HX, 54.57 Ahr, battery temp 61.8 F.
Now driving a 2015 VW eGolf SEL.

LeftieBiker
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Re: Buying Nissan Leaf as my first EV

Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:12 pm

If Nissan and WetEV are correct, then the car just needs a free software update to restore both the missing bars and lost range. It is a gamble that I would not take myself, though.
Scarlet Ember 2018 Leaf SL W/ Pro Pilot
2009 Vectrix VX-1 W/18 Leaf modules, & 3 EZIP E-bicycles.
PLEASE don't PM me with Leaf questions. Just post in the topic that seems most appropriate.

Levenkay
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Delivery Date: 11 Aug 2018
Leaf Number: 308382
Location: Portland, OR

Re: Buying Nissan Leaf as my first EV

Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:43 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:If Nissan and WetEV are correct, then the car just needs a free software update to restore both the missing bars and lost range. It is a gamble that I would not take myself, though.
The OP mentions that the picture was provided by the dealer. If it's a Nissan dealer, why not just insist that the update be applied?

ipuzunov
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Re: Buying Nissan Leaf as my first EV

Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:47 pm

Sorry for my English.
The photo was provided to me by the salesman from “Lewis Chevrolet”. Yes, that’s the same Nissan Leaf SV MY2016.

cwerdna
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Location: SF Bay Area, CA

Re: Buying Nissan Leaf as my first EV

Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:07 pm

ipuzunov wrote:Sorry for my English.
The photo was provided to me by the salesman from “Lewis Chevrolet”. Yes, that’s the same Nissan Leaf SV MY2016.

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Well, unless the Chevy dealer also sells Nissans, they probably won't be able to apply the TSB. If you have it done in Bulgaria, Nissan there might not cover the cost and you might have to pay for it out of pocket. There can be warranty and recall work complications if you take a car out of the country it was sold in.

(I know this as long ago, I looked into buying a Nissan Maxima new from Canada (I'm a US resident and citizen) due to the favorable pricing and exchange rate... From what I gathered, warranty work was going to be a hassle. I'd have to pay out of pocket each time and attempt to get reimbursed by Nissan North America.)

I'm guessing you don't have Chevrolet (a GM brand) in Bulgaria. Or, if you did, they're gone. You probably have GM's former equivalent Opel, which got sold to PSA Groupe.

'13 Leaf SV w/premium package (owned)
'13 Leaf SV w/QC + LED & premium packages (lease over, car returned)
'06 Prius

Please don't PM me with Leaf questions. Just post in the topic that seems most appropriate.

ipuzunov
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Re: Buying Nissan Leaf as my first EV

Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:56 am

Just to complete the thread, I've got in touch with a Nissan representative.
This is the conversation with him.

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ddh1313
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Re: Buying Nissan Leaf as my first EV

Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:04 am

Someone bought it yesterday. They got a heck of a deal.

powersurge
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Location: Long Island, NY

Re: Buying Nissan Leaf as my first EV

Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:21 am

You are lucky that you did not buy it. I cant see why you would want to Import, from another continent, a car that is so rare that you could not find parts or service for it.... I would not recommend that you continue trying this.... sorry.

You know the saying.... when in Rome, do as the Romans do? Buy the most common, good European car you can get...

If I lived in Europe, I would be driving bmw, Mercedes, and those really bad British cars because they are so easy to fix and get parts for... Here in the USA, European cars are the kiss of death to own...

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