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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:02 pm

I think that 200 miles/leg is too optimistic for that transcontinental trip. 180 at most, and that would still limit it to maybe 4 EVs...
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Re: Electrify America Network

Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:32 am

I think the "minimum" distance between chargers needs to be much smaller. The newer batch of EVers are not hypermiling so even a 200 mile EV in Winter won't make some of these stretches with snow or wind involved. I have not looked at EA closely but have they addressed terrain? Some areas may need to be 50 miles apart.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:37 am

GetOffYourGas wrote:
All 484 locations planned as part of its first 30-month investment cycle have now been identified and secured.

Beyond the 105 sites open now, another 127 are under active construction with 42 of those completed but waiting to be energized by utilities. A further 73 sites have approved permits and are schedule for construction. The remaining 179 of the total 484 sites are still in the design and engineering stage.


I wish EA provided some more real-time status. I would love to know the actual status of specific stations, rather than just an aggregate number.

They have a location map at their website that shows individual site construction status, sort of.

Locations under design but without permits generally are not shown yet on their map which confuses people into thinking those areas won’t be getting stations this year.

Locations with permits generally seem to be listed as “coming soon”. They may or may not actually be under construction.

The map also clearly shows which locations are now open.

Unfortunately, it does not yet show whether specific charging spaces are in use or available. There will be a new smartphone app in the next couple of months that presumably will show dynamic status updates.

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Re: Electrify America Network

Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:40 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:I think the "minimum" distance between chargers needs to be much smaller. The newer batch of EVers are not hypermiling so even a 200 mile EV in Winter won't make some of these stretches with snow or wind involved. I have not looked at EA closely but have they addressed terrain? Some areas may need to be 50 miles apart.

Their max location spacing is 120 miles in flat rural areas. Spacing closer to urban areas tends to be 50-60 miles. They say that they do take account of elevation changes and terrain. I don’t know specifically if they take account of areas with colder winter extremes — that’s a good question.

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Re: Electrify America Network

Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:02 pm

JeffN wrote:
GetOffYourGas wrote:
All 484 locations planned as part of its first 30-month investment cycle have now been identified and secured.

Beyond the 105 sites open now, another 127 are under active construction with 42 of those completed but waiting to be energized by utilities. A further 73 sites have approved permits and are schedule for construction. The remaining 179 of the total 484 sites are still in the design and engineering stage.


I wish EA provided some more real-time status. I would love to know the actual status of specific stations, rather than just an aggregate number.

They have a location map at their website that shows individual site construction status, sort of.

Locations under design but without permits generally are not shown yet on their map which confuses people into thinking those areas won’t be getting stations this year.

Locations with permits generally seem to be listed as “coming soon”. They may or may not actually be under construction.

The map also clearly shows which locations are now open.

Unfortunately, it does not yet show whether specific charging spaces are in use or available. There will be a new smartphone app in the next couple of months that presumably will show dynamic status updates.


I am familiar with that map. It is woefully out of date it is nowhere near close to listing the number of sites that EA now claims are constructed.

For example, there is a site near me in Herkimer NY. It started physical construction in early December. It is now fully constructed, awaiting connection to the grid. It still doesn’t show up on EA’s map even as “coming soon”. Meanwhile, Albany NY has a pin with “coming soon”, but they have yet to even break ground.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:46 pm

Where in Albany will it be located?
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Re: Electrify America Network

Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:31 pm

According to EA’s map, the WalMart next to Crossgates mall.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:30 pm

Thanks. That's pretty close to the existing EVGo station, isn't it? A few miles away, anyway.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:04 pm

It is less than 5 miles from the EVGo I used this morning, on Central Ave.

Albany is not the first place that needs EA. The huge gap between Albany and Buffalo needs to be addressed first.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:26 pm

Albany is not the first place that needs EA. The huge gap between Albany and Buffalo needs to be addressed first.


Yes. With one in Albany they need one somewhere around Syracuse. I didn't at first realize how damned lucky I am to have one just 6 miles away from me in Troy, at the Hannaford at which I usually shop, even if it is in the wrong direction for many of my trips.
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