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Re: EV-Charge America EV2104: Complete Review!

Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:02 pm

bowthom wrote:Hello,
I don't think you can use (triacs) SS relays in an EVSE. Doesn't adhere to the J1772 standard.


Yes, This is true! Not only did they use SSR's, but they don't appear to be heatsinked enough, and a 16A (or more) load could generate enough heat to cause a problem. There will be over 50 watts of waste heat in there while charging a Leaf! Of course, since there is no Pilot, the car will not charge anyway.

Note that other than the safety issue, you will be paying for 50 watts of charging energy that your car will never see!

You'd think the dumba**es would have used a standard contactor, which is would have been cheaper also!

I would ask for a RMA and also apply for a chargeback. You can buy all those parts cheaper than what you paid, and you don't really even need the RFID stuff anyway. Chances are they won't agree to take your unit back, so begin the chargeback at the same time.

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Re: EV-Charge America EV2104: Complete Review!

Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:14 pm

DarkStar wrote:I just sent off my L1 EVSE to you for the upgrade! Don't worry though, I won't be dissecting it for my review because I already believe you provide a quality product for a great price (so I'll maintain the warranty)! :D


You can dissect it if you wish as long as you don't want the support! =)

Be warned, just as in the original EVSE, we pot the electronics to preserve reliability. So there isn't much to see unless you wish to attempt depotting. (or you have a handy X-ray machine!)

Either way, the review would be appreciated!

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Re: EV-Charge America EV2104: Complete Review!

Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:50 am

Does anyone have recent experience buying and using one of these stations? Some time has passed since DarkStar's review and I'd really like to know if the shipping and quality problems have been ironed out.

Back in December, someone posted to the GM-Volt forum that they were happy with their unit:
http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?5795-Alternative-240v-Charging-Dock-EV2104

But I haven't seen anything in the last six months. Thanks for the updates.
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Re: EV-Charge America EV2104: Complete Review!

Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:19 am

I am not sure why anyone would want a EV-Charge America EV2104. Whats the point? An upgraded EVSE from Phil works flawlessly. It's small, it works and if you want you can mount it to a wall. I am really glad this product is available. It saved me $1500.
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Re: EV-Charge America EV2104: Complete Review!

Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:45 am

downeykp wrote:I am not sure why anyone would want a EV-Charge America EV2104. Whats the point? An upgraded EVSE from Phil works flawlessly. It's small, it works and if you want you can mount it to a wall. I am really glad this product is available. It saved me $1500.


I know all about Phil's upgrade, and have one in my garage. But it's not the subject of this thread. I'm genuinely interested if anyone has purchased the EV2104. It got a lot of interest back in December when people were scrambling to get the EVSE tax credit.

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Re: EV-Charge America EV2104: Complete Review!

Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:15 am

downeykp wrote:I am not sure why anyone would want a EV-Charge America EV2104. Whats the point? An upgraded EVSE from Phil works flawlessly. It's small, it works and if you want you can mount it to a wall. I am really glad this product is available. It saved me $1500.

One reason would be the LADWP rebate which requires the purchase of a UL listed L2 charger to qualify. There probably are or will be programs across the country with similar requirements. If Phil's upgrade were UL-listed I'd buy two, one upgrade for my existing and a second new upgraded unit to keep "installed" at home.
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Re: EV-Charge America EV2104: Complete Review!

Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:12 pm

I have a EV-Charge America EV2104 which works very well. I particularly like that it plugs into my 50 amp 240 outlet (not hard wired), so if needed, I could take it with me. The outside structure is very solid. The plug is now the same one as comes with the car. I am very happy with it.
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Re: EV-Charge America EV2104: Complete Review!

Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:56 pm

Devin wrote:
downeykp wrote:I am not sure why anyone would want a EV-Charge America EV2104. Whats the point? An upgraded EVSE from Phil works flawlessly. It's small, it works and if you want you can mount it to a wall. I am really glad this product is available. It saved me $1500.

One reason would be the LADWP rebate which requires the purchase of a UL listed L2 charger to qualify. There probably are or will be programs across the country with similar requirements. If Phil's upgrade were UL-listed I'd buy two, one upgrade for my existing and a second new upgraded unit to keep "installed" at home.


The Nissan Unit is UL listed and I doubt anyone is going to open it and say it no longer is. Secondly, I don't believe the EV2104 is UL listed, it may have some UL parts but that does NOT make it UL listed. Not to mention the other reasons to stay away from this company.

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