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leafydeafy

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I'm a new Leaf owner (2018 SV) and am interested in hearing other takes on the Leaf vs. other EV's (BEV or PHEV). What other EV's did you test drive? What sold you on the Leaf? (Or what sold you on another EV?)

Here's my list:

Information-gathering test drives (before I was actively in the market for an EV):

1. Tesla Model S: a couple buddies and I went for a test drive, and this is what turned my interest in EV's from distant daydream to "I need to do this soon." I've never been big into performance vehicles, but the Tesla's acceleration and handling were intoxicating. The car felt like an extension of myself. The interior was fine. I wasn't a big fan of the huge touch-screen monitor on the dash. It seemed like overkill and a distraction. This may just be personal taste.

2. Prius Prime: for a while I thought this might be my first EV. I have usually steered toward Toyota or Honda vehicles in the past, and thought this would be the way to go. Driving the Prius Prime was great. Loved the feel. Loved the heads-up display on the windshield. Acceleration wasn't great from what I remember. What ultimately led me away from the Prime was the electric range. I felt like I'd constantly have reverse range anxiety...always trying to go all-electric and not have to use the ICE. Then it struck me that I really needed to get an all-electric car.

When I got serious about buying a new EV I narrowed my choices down to a Leaf and Bolt:

3. Chevy Bolt: it's a really nice car, but just didn't feel right to me. It was kind of boxy and cold-feeling on the inside. And kind of drove like a box on wheels. It had a lot of nice features, but most I felt I'd never really use. I've never been a big "bells-and-whistles" guy. Driving-wise, it was fine, but just not the same as the Leaf. It had an impressive turning radius (I don't know why this impressed me as much as it did...but it did). And of course, the range is great. Again, a lot of this just may be personal taste.

4. Nissan Leaf: it was kind of love at first drive. It felt kind of Tesla-light to me...that is, nice, peppy acceleration. Nice handle and feel to it. And unlike the Bolt, it felt more car-like. I was really comfortable in it. It had features I really wanted and appreciated: e-Pedal and Pro Pilot.

Deciding factors in favor of the Leaf: updated look and interior feel; e-Pedal; Pro Pilot; range vs. price...at this point I don't need the extra 80-90 miles of range the Bolt offers, and that extra $5k+ on the price would have inched it out of what I was willing to spend. I have a 28 mile commute (round trip), so I only need to charge it every 3 days or so (I tend to keep the battery between 40-80%).

So this is my journey to Leaf. I'm very interested to hear all of your stories...what did you test drive? What did you like / dislike about the EV's currently on the market?
 
You looked at the Prime PHEV but did you look at the Volt? When I was looking, on paper the Volt was pretty ideal(except for the less than steller ICE MPG, not up to the Prime MPG) but I could have probably got by with it but I just couldn't stand the cramped cockpit, for us it was hate at first sit :(
I thought the Bolt was more acceptable for cockpit room but IMO the seats were too hard and tight.
In the end the Leaf seemed to be our best option, sure the range isn't up to something like a Bolt but the seats and interior front room is quite good.
 
Tesla model S. Twice. Couldn’t afford it.

Bolt twice. Didn’t feel right. Too small. Loud. Nice car though.

Smart EV convertible. Not really fair cause we own one and we drive it EVERY day.

Then the 2016 SV 30Kwh leaf. Perfect fit. Has been flawless on every level. Will consider another when the time comes.
 
Didn't get to drive co-worker's electric homebuilt. Not sure if I would have wanted to if asked, was an interesting collection of things well before their time and things well past their time.

Ford Focus Electric. I loved it, wife didn't.

iMiev. Cross between a Flintstone's car and a Jetson's car. Too small of battery. Too little space for the family at the time. Not enough space to haul stuff.

Didn't fit into the Tesla Roadster. The Model S wasn't out, yet. And both didn't fit my budget.
 
The Leaf was the first electric car I had ever driven (not counting our Gen III Prius), although I had owned several two-wheeled EVs. I liked it enough to lease one that day. This was in 2013, when 4 wheeled EV options were much more limited.
 
The LEAF was really the only PHEV/BEV I considered, mostly based on price. When I started thinking about an EV, I didn't think I would find anything for my budget of $10k CA...

A 2013 SV, in January of 2017, averaged around $17k CA in Vancouver - way more than I could afford. So, I feel like I won the lottery when I found a 2013 SV for $8k US
in Seattle and promptly imported it into Canada.

Having said that, the LEAF has been perfect for my family, just wish it had a little more range so we could get rid of our ICE car.

Our next car will likely be a 2018 LEAF or a used Bolt, but we won't do that until our 2013 has less than 50 miles (80km) of range.

I'm not interested in a PHEV, too much complexity and I like driving a zero emission vehicle. Also, in just a few short years, all BEVs will have 300+ miles of range so why would anyone buy a new PHEV at that point?
 
For public transportation Leaf was only logical choice in 2013 around here, however I did drive one of these EV for many years:

https://www.genielift.com/en/aerial-lifts/Slab-scissor-lifts/gs2046
 
I "drove" an Oxygen Lepton scooter starting in 2002. Great little EV, just a little too slow, with the top speed limited to 25MPH. Then a crappy X-Treme XM-3000 scooter that would do 43MPH or so, then a terrible ZEV 5000LA that would go 62MPH - if you were patient. Our 2010 Prius II is what got me interested in electric cars, along with the early Leaf ads.
 
The Leaf was the only one I test drove. It wasn't really a test drive, but I needed a rental after my Audi ended up in the shop (again) and the local Enterprise just happened to have a couple of Leafs available. This was in the summer of 2012, and at that time the only affordable alternative EVs of (somewhat) similar capabilities was the iMiEV and the Coda. The iMiEV was just too weird looking (even when compared to the Leaf) and I did not hear good things about the way the Coda drove.

Tesla Model S was (and still is) out of my price range, and at that time was in extremely short supply. Focus Electric would not come out for another year or so, 500e and eGolf and Soul EV even further out than that.
 
When I put down a deposit on a Leaf in 2011, I had only driven it, an iMiev, and the Tesla Roadster. The roadster was way outside of my budget, but I sure would have loved one! The iMiev didn't really feel like a "real" car to me. The Leaf was an easy sell.

When it came time to upgrade, I had driven many more EVs. Model S, Focus, Golf are the ones that stood out. Ultimately to upgrade I need more range so that my EV could go from a regional car to an actual road-trip car. With my budget, that left the Leaf, Bolt, and Model 3.

The Model 3 is a great car, but it seems more like a computer than a car. I am one of those who is turned off by the lack of a proper instrument cluster. The single 17" monitor doesn't do it for me.

The 2018 Leaf looks like another great option, but it simply doesn't have enough range. The nearest QC along my typical route is 140 miles east. That means coming home, I'd have to QC to full, and then I'd still be sweating bullets driving 140 miles on the highway, into a typically strong westerly headwind. Basically, I wouldn't be road tripping in the 2018 Leaf until more chargers appeared. Maybe in the next year or two.

The Bolt really checked all the boxes for me. The range was plenty to make the last leg home on my journeys. The QC is slower than I want, but fast enough for my needs. The car drives like it was designed by an auto-cross racer (probably because it was ;) ), which I love. I don't need the extra power, but I sure do enjoy it. Plus it really holds the road better than my old Leaf. The "penalty" for this is a stiffer ride. That's really just physics, though, and is true for any sporty car.

I really do think that all three cars are great options. I'm thrilled to see them all available, and am looking forward to the 2019 e-Plus, not to mention the Hyundai Kona EV.
 
I've been lucky to drive the following, but not really so much as a test drive because I could not realistically afford any of them besides my used Leaf that I just picked up this weekend.

1s gen Leaf
2nd gen Leaf (new ones are nice!)
Bolt (the one I would buy if I had the money)
Volt
 
Whien I signed up for my LEAF it was April of 2010. Outside of a few boutique vendors in other states, there were no other EV's available. I did very much like the idea of EV, and I (dummy!) bought into the hype of a 100-mile vehicle. Got my 2012SL about 22 months later and liked it very much but it was clearly not going to be an ICE replacement...more of a gas saver for city trips and short commutes.

Fast forward eight years to today. EV's have come a long way for almost all vendors EXCEPT Nissan. I didn't want a hybrid and its additional complexity for two drive systems so kept looking at new LEAFs. I couldn't have been more disappointed at the almost inconsequential range increases and for me the biggest downside was trying to take a trip. Although there were no DC chargers at all in my state and the surrounding ones, there were a number of L2 devices installed in convenient places to enable charging. But for a trip, again for me, the charging was so slow and so frequent I never got on board for short-range EV's.

Enter Tesla. Amazing vehicles, not even a consideration due to cost for me.

Enter the Volt. Neat vehicle, friends had one, two actually, and I really liked it. But is was a hybrid and after enjoying the LEAF, that was out.

Enter the Bolt. To this day, no Bolt has made it to the local dealership, so no local opportunity to actually see it. But there were enough frequently-mentioned downsides so I excluded that as well.

Re-enter Tesla. Although still in a price range I found unfriendly, the new Model 3 seemed to have a lot going for it, especially two things: a 310-mile EPA range, and a huge and growing network of chargers that actually filled the Model 3's electron tank very, very quickly. For the first time, I found an EV that could replace an ICE vehicle for me. And it did. I sold my Toyota Venza as soon as I took delivery of my Model 3 in July.

Still have the 2012 LEAF SL though for the really short trips. It is easier for me to get into and out of than the Model 3, and it has the absolutely wonderful heated steering wheel not available on the Model 3. But no ICE vehicle in the driveway, nor any hybrids. Full disclosure: I have a 1964 Ford Thunderbird, but it gets about 200 miles a year for shows.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
 
Chevy Volt (My wife really does not like its looks.)
Nissan Leaf (As expected, it drives like most automatic transmission cars.)
Toyota Prius Prime (Not really a test drive, a purchase; first experience with J-1772.)
 
To answer the question as it wasn't asked (what EVs did you test drive before buying/leasing your current EV?):

* Bolt Premiere. I didn't much like the styling, although that wasn't a deal-breaker. I didn't love the interior, either, but except for slightly uncomfortable front seats that I thought I could fix (I'm the one who came up with the idea of putting extra padding under the seat cushion bottom) that wasn't a deal breaker either. I was very unhappy that in order to get the four camera parking system I had to accept leather seating, and that, along with everything else I didn't like, including the ride, made me decide to make the Bolt my last resort. It looked like the Federal EV tax credit was about to end, though, so I was mentally preparing myself to lease a Premiere. In the meantime, I test-drove a...

* Kia Soul EV. This little not-really-truck was more charming than the Bolt, but also had several deficiencies. The power was a bit less than my 2013 Leaf SV, and the ride and handling a little worse. I did like the high riding position, but the Leaf also had that, with the seat adjusted up. No 4 camera system with the Soul, but if you (once again) opted for the top trim with leather-only seats, you got front parking sensors. The trouble was, the sensors were crap. I got the car's nose within 3" of a metal pole, and they didn't sound. Fail. That and the very modest 100ish mile range made the 2017 Soul just a mediocre compromise.

The tax credit was spared, and I ended up with a 2018 leaf SL. I hate the leather seats, but I like almost everything else about the car. I just wish I could find good, cloth seat covers for it.
 
LeftieBiker said:
The Leaf was the first electric car I had ever driven (not counting our Gen III Prius), although I had owned several two-wheeled EVs. I liked it enough to lease one that day. This was in 2013, when 4 wheeled EV options were much more limited.
Unless you count the floor scrubber I drive at work, the Leaf was my first EV to test drive. I think for a lot of people the Leaf may have been their first car. Most other EV's are only sold in certain states. And ones like Tesla have been too expensive.
 
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