DOE-sponsored project shows big potential for carbon storage

Via GCC:

"DOE-sponsored project shows huge potential for carbon storage in Wyoming; potential for lithium recovery to offset cost"

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2014/06/20140604-wyo.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Unstated is how they're going to get all the CO2 there.

Let me get this straight, lithium is produced as CO2 is sequestered?

LTLFTcomposite said:

Let me get this straight, lithium is produced as CO2 is sequestered?

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No, they're talking about using CO2 to push out the underground brine that has a high concentration of lithium. This is one potential supply of lithium to be developed to meet Musk's North American supply goal for his giga- battery factory.

I've been reading about folks researching carbon farming. One of the problem with climate change is that the higher temperatures are making some soil organisms work much faster - and they're processing organic matter in the soil much faster than has happened in the past - that means that returning cornstalks to the soil is no longer a usable carbon storage method as it has been in the past. But a process of using the organic matter to make charcoal and returning that to the soil will sequester carbon for hundreds or thousands of years as that form of carbon is not nearly as easily digested. While creating the charcoal/biochar, we get heat and 'wood gas' that can replace natural gas. The back of napkin numbers suggest that if we were to add 2% of this biochar to the top 12 inches of all of the world's active farmland that we would sequester more carbon that has been dumped into the atmosphere since the start of the industrial revolution. And nature can provide the required raw materials in a single growing season. Clearly we cannot or will not do our part of that at all or that quickly, but yet again nature makes us look like the puny beings we are.

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/344/6183/508.abstract
http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/SCM-30.pdf

^ Interesting stuff... does that mean it's better to use a charcoal grill than a gas grill?

LTLFTcomposite said:

^ Interesting stuff... does that mean it's better to use a charcoal grill than a gas grill?

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From a CO2 perspective, yes, because you're burning Carbon that was recently a living tree, instead of fossil carbon.

But natural gas has the advantage in terms of particulates and unburned hydrocarbons.

This would probably be better

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ22QCAqFCc[/youtube]

LTLFTcomposite said:

^ Interesting stuff... does that mean it's better to use a charcoal grill than a gas grill?

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No, as according to one of the articles above, charcoal briquettes are made from coal.

Cheers, Wayne

Nubo said:

LTLFTcomposite said:

^ Interesting stuff... does that mean it's better to use a charcoal grill than a gas grill?

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From a CO2 perspective, yes, because you're burning Carbon that was recently a living tree, instead of fossil carbon.

But natural gas has the advantage in terms of particulates and unburned hydrocarbons.

This would probably be better

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ22QCAqFCc[/youtube]

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Thanks for that! I love my solar oven. The first thing that came to mind when I watched the video was "Warning: do not look at mirror with remaining eye" :lol: