jlsoaz wrote:DaveinOlyWA wrote:90 percent that "need" another car besides the LEAF
I think I understood your basic point. I'm one of the people who needs another car besides the Leaf, no quotation marks necessary in my case.
My point was, and is,your claim of an exact number of "90%", a number which you keep repeating. Do you have any actual evidence for this exact figure of 90%?
Note that there is this one number of somewhere between 73 and 81% (19% having one EV and no ICV, and another 8% having two EVs or more and no ICV), which I get from this very small-sample non-scientific poll from this forum:
what i actually said is "90+%" which is based on transportation study of individual trips from home where 93% are under 40 miles round trip. (done in 2007 i think...but the length of trips have been declining)
as far as personal unscientific poll, that is nearly impossible to quantify. for example;
my in-laws drive a F-150 and a Kia Soul. both have round trip commutes under 10 miles. so the only time they would need more mileage is when they go visiting. they rarely shop out of town and since their Son moved back to Olympia from Salem, OR about the only time they leave town is to go camping... FYI; we frequently join them and have only taken the Prius one time in the past 2 years so most of their camping journeys maybe be beyond the 50 mile RT parameters but is still doable by the LEAF. here is a pix from Ocean Shores WA a 72 mile one way trip. not applicable to the discussion but...
Other camping destinations; Hoodsport; 46 miles RT
Port Townsend; 52 miles RT, etc you get the picture. so all very reachable and none of these places are "compromises." i think many people are realizing that good places to go are not always necessarily a long way off.
for anyone I know well, its pretty much the same. I drive all over as part of my job and I have a close friend who does the same as part of his. I know a half dozen people who work several miles from home but none drive. they go from their home to the a park and ride including me about 75% of the time. this also includes two people who have only started van pooling this year. Both absolutely love it and lament they did not do it sooner.
but keep in mind; for this household combo to work, only one of the two have to have a driving need under 50 miles for the LEAF to work. Right now, the Prius gets driven frequently because there are two of us and it needs to be driven otherwise it will have problems (12 volt battery problems are way too common these days. its funny that auto manufacturers put all these power needs onto the 12 volt battery without any regard to long term viability)
but my scientific poll showed several months where 100% of trips were under 40 miles. had my sister who is unique in that her SO's kids live 40 miles away so they take turns either picking them up 40 miles away or meeting "halfway" (which is about 30 miles away...not sure how that works out to half...) and even with those special circumstances, she is just now getting below 90% but only because of the holidays and additional trips they dont normally make.
so ya, i stick by my statement "90+%"