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Crazy. One of my favorite parts:

Baker estimated damages at roughly $100,000, not including the other two vehicles in the garage, a Mercedes-Benz SUV and an Acura NSX.

So the estimate of $100,00 does not include the "other" two vehicles in the garage... so is that just for the Karma or the damage to the house? Because it clearly can only be one of those two things.

All-in-all, I hate to see things like this happen. I hope they are able to find the cause of this, whatever it may be (car, electrical panel, person, fireworks in garage, etc.).
 
My favorite part is:

“This looks just like golf cart fires we have down here,” said Baker. "The suburban Houston area has approximately 50 golf cart fires a year," he said.
 
But also states that the 'battery was intact' -- what did Bob Lutz say in an interview, something like over 200K 'regular' car fires occur per year yet the media latches onto these handful ??

It's still a shame for Fisker (the other Consumer Reports road test failure) as well as the new owner ... still no LEAF fires but it's quite easy for them to generalize even without knowing the actual cause
 
Ugh - fisker's doing themselves no favors by being so evasive (mentioning fireworks and foul play, for example) - need just just stick to the minimal (fire department still investigating, etc) until they know. hope it turns out it was fireworks or insurance scam or owner left a lit cigarette in the seat or some crap, but until there's a good lead any conjecture they propose just encourages further conjecture.
 
That pic looks just like the $400,000.00 Lamborghini Aventadore fire a couple of weeks ago. Here is the video.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1075408_first-reported-lamborghini-aventador-destroyed-by-fire" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It happened mid test drive on the 73 freeway right next to our house. Even regarding the Karma, combustability of composites and gasoline is very impressive. Was it in EREV mode when he pulled into the garage???
 
AP1 said:
My favorite part is:

“This looks just like golf cart fires we have down here,” said Baker. "The suburban Houston area has approximately 50 golf cart fires a year," he said.

:shock:
 
redLEAF said:
But also states that the 'battery was intact' -- what did Bob Lutz say in an interview, something like over 200K 'regular' car fires occur per year yet the media latches onto these handful ??
The statistic from the NFPA is, IIRC, another car fire every ~109 seconds on average.

How many Prius have burst into flames over the years? I don't recall that ever being a media sh*tstorm. :roll: Also worth noting is that the number of non-hybrid EVs catching fire appears to remain at zero.
=Smidge=
 
Smidge204 said:
redLEAF said:
But also states that the 'battery was intact' -- what did Bob Lutz say in an interview, something like over 200K 'regular' car fires occur per year yet the media latches onto these handful ??
The statistic from the NFPA is, IIRC, another car fire every ~109 seconds on average.

How many Prius have burst into flames over the years? I don't recall that ever being a media sh*tstorm. :roll: Also worth noting is that the number of non-hybrid EVs catching fire appears to remain at zero.
=Smidge=


This falls into the "new" category of "man bites dog". I see a burning or burned out car EVERYDAY along either I65 or I24 or Briley Parkway. NOT a single word in the news. But the newsmedia can make a story out of an electric vehicle fire. Ooooooooo! Electricity!! Sparks! Hellfire and Damnation!!! Debbils in that thang..

Could be worse, I could read The Tennessean newspaper and read about how G-d never intended man to fly or something like that.

Dave
 
garsh said:
I have to say, if I had been considering getting a Fisker, I would have completely changed my mind given the issues they've been having, combined with this fire.

Startup guys have found making cars isn't as easy as it looks.

Fisker strikes me as more toward the exotic end of the scale, a world where people spend 3-10 times as much as they would for a normal car to get a totally unreliable poorly tested POS with zero quality control.
 
garsh said:
Smidge204 said:
Also worth noting is that the number of non-hybrid EVs catching fire appears to remain at zero.
Let's be careful about that claim
Car certainly doesn't LOOK to be on fire, nor is anyone looking particularly concerned. I know there was a recall over the possibility of a 12V battery cable shorting out but I don't know of any Roadsters actually going up in flames.

=Smidge=
 
Based on initial observations and inspections, the Karma's lithium ion battery pack was not being charged at the time and is still intact and does not appear to have been a contributing factor in this incident.

I'm having a hard time thinking of what else on the car could have fueled a fire so intense as shown in the picture?
 
Nubo said:
Based on initial observations and inspections, the Karma's lithium ion battery pack was not being charged at the time and is still intact and does not appear to have been a contributing factor in this incident.

I'm having a hard time thinking of what else on the car could have fueled a fire so intense as shown in the picture?


That's the $100,000 question. I just re-read the original article and the following up where the Frisky Folks are pointing fingers at the car owner. Let's remember that Hank Fisker and his company has a load of moolah invested (well, most likely not HIS money, but that of the US Government and other investors). No wonder they flew in a SWAT Team and evidently bullied their way through the "crime scene". They've got a lot of riding on this and if it turns out the Fisker design is the culprit, Hank and others can go back to Southern California building custom cars for multi-level marketing gurus, as the business will be toast. I say that the auto buying public is a very fickle bunch -- look at the Edsel, look at the Corvair Monza, look at the Traubant, even! Personally I think the Fisker is a nice machine, looks wise, and if I were a whole lot younger and had all teh money that wives #1, 2, 3, and 4 got, I'd get one to tool around the old Hacienda.
 
CWO4Mann said:
if I were a whole lot younger and had all teh money that wives #1, 2, 3, and 4 got, I'd get one to tool around the old Hacienda.
Does CWO4 stand for "chief warrant officer grade 4" or "current wives ousted: 4" ? :lol:
 
Nubo said:
Based on initial observations and inspections, the Karma's lithium ion battery pack was not being charged at the time and is still intact and does not appear to have been a contributing factor in this incident.

I'm having a hard time thinking of what else on the car could have fueled a fire so intense as shown in the picture?
The battery could still have 'fueled' the fire without bursting into flames. A high voltage cable anywhere in the car can be the discharge path. A short or failed component that allows enough battery current through to get hot can ignite and feed a fire.
 
LTLFTcomposite said:
CWO4Mann said:
if I were a whole lot younger and had all teh money that wives #1, 2, 3, and 4 got, I'd get one to tool around the old Hacienda.
Does CWO4 stand for "chief warrant officer grade 4" or "current wives ousted: 4" ? :lol:
That would be "Chief" to you, civilian. ;) Now drop and give the Chief 20! :lol:
 
Any other vrifi ation of the cause of the fire? I am getting feedback from peolle living in the area who are not seeing anything about what caused the fire
 
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