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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu May 24, 2018 12:28 pm

dgpcolorado wrote:I think noise is going to be a sort of "it depends" factor for most unless tested under controlled conditions and even then there are suggestions that individual cars will have different noise levels depending on the fit of window and door seals. Barring that, it will be hard to make a blanket statement that the Model 3 is or isn't noisier than the LEAF.


Understood and agreed, although I'm willing to take even a subjective opinion into account. Well I should know myself in another 6 weeks or so.

I know what you mean by road noise too. Our Volt doesn't seem to suffer from wind noise, but yes, road noise is definitely present in that vehicle as compared to the LEAF.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu May 24, 2018 1:17 pm

Thanks.

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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu May 24, 2018 4:50 pm

lpickup wrote:
dgpcolorado wrote:I think noise is going to be a sort of "it depends" factor for most unless tested under controlled conditions and even then there are suggestions that individual cars will have different noise levels depending on the fit of window and door seals. Barring that, it will be hard to make a blanket statement that the Model 3 is or isn't noisier than the LEAF.


Understood and agreed, although I'm willing to take even a subjective opinion into account. Well I should know myself in another 6 weeks or so.

I know what you mean by road noise too. Our Volt doesn't seem to suffer from wind noise, but yes, road noise is definitely present in that vehicle as compared to the LEAF.

C&D's in-depth test of the Model 3 compares interior noise levels at 70 mph with some other BEVs (not the LEAF, but Bolt/e-Golf/Ionic BEV/i3 BEV), and it's a bit better. Note, these are quantitative numbers rather than qualitative ratings, which will obviously differ depending on the individual: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/20 ... ace-review
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Sat May 26, 2018 1:36 pm

GRA wrote:... Note, these are quantitative numbers rather than qualitative ratings, which will obviously differ depending on the individual: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/20 ... ace-review


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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Sat May 26, 2018 7:42 pm

I'm willing to say that all EVs are quiet. Road noise is a different matter and to a fair degree a driver choice of tyre and inflation pressure. Nothing however will help a crappy road.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Sat May 26, 2018 11:17 pm

I'm sure in the next several days there will be a ton of emergency brake testing ... probably for many it will be the first time as normal and even hard braking is not that same as true emergency braking :)

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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Sun May 27, 2018 1:30 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzmv0ORhXlE

Good (?) news:

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3h3 hours ago

Getting our hypermile #Model3 towed to the Service Center. After leaving it charged overnight at a Supercharger it is still not taking a charge...

https://twitter.com/seanmmitchell?ref_s ... 2-miles%2F
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Sun May 27, 2018 1:34 pm

edatoakrun wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzmv0ORhXlE

Good (?) news:

Sean M Mitchell

3h3 hours ago

Getting our hypermile #Model3 towed to the Service Center. After leaving it charged overnight at a Supercharger it is still not taking a charge...

https://twitter.com/seanmmitchell?ref_s ... 2-miles%2F


Running hypothesis is that the 12v doesn't have enough juice to close the main contactor, so can't charge. Maybe if it were "jumped", they can start charging?
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Sun May 27, 2018 2:50 pm

Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:
edatoakrun wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzmv0ORhXlE

Good (?) news:

Sean M Mitchell

3h3 hours ago

Getting our hypermile #Model3 towed to the Service Center. After leaving it charged overnight at a Supercharger it is still not taking a charge...

https://twitter.com/seanmmitchell?ref_s ... 2-miles%2F


Running hypothesis is that the 12v doesn't have enough juice to close the main contactor, so can't charge. Maybe if it were "jumped", they can start charging?

What's the running hypothesis for the low available capacity reported, which looks to have been (roughly) confirmed by the shorter-than-expected driving range?

...Weirdly, the car was showing a lower percentage than expected and died at 66 kWh instead of 75. Additionally, when they were done they ran into difficulties charging the vehicle...

https://insideevs.com/tesla-model-3-set ... 6-2-miles/
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Sun May 27, 2018 3:08 pm

edatoakrun wrote:What's the running hypothesis for the low available capacity reported, which looks to have been (roughly) confirmed by the shorter-than-expected driving range?

Who knows? What's the running hypothesis for why anyone other than the people who did this would care about such a 'completely unrelated to practical purposes' record? I here the records for flagpole sitting and marathon dancing are up for grabs as well.
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