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I can vouch that I was point blank advised against buying this car when i went to look at it at the dealership. maybe they are starting to catch on....

after 18+ years in the desert i was lucky to get 2 years out of a normal lead acid battery. I had no illusions that an electric car battery would fare better without thermal cooling. still, nissan could have been WAY more proactive in educating desert owners before they bought. hell they...

rick, i beat you with 9 bars charging outside of a frys! lol way to hot for L2, how much did you get out of it? mine only charged 15% before it throttled the charge :/

i agree man, its why they need a buy out option on the battery. or when they sell the car knock 10k off the price ;)

what battery temps are people seeing this time of year? broke my 8 bar barrier with 116 and an 45min L2 charge lol

This is why i wish people used linux more... the prices we pay for being a bleeding edge adopter!! at least you become adept at formatting and reinstalling new distros... lol in all fairness, i empathize with people who purchased it, but its not like batteries were so new we didn't know they...

i guess its relative, if you go only 2.5 more years and loose one more bar you'll be somewhat inline with nissans predictions. only time will tell. hopefully the 2015 has great new battery technology that the early leafs can take advantage of

i was actually reference an article elsewhere that said 12 on the replacements, but your statement here is what led me to believe it. i cant believe nissan would want to spend all that labor money on 9 bar packs.

@ Volusiano you might confusing the battery warranty and the leasing programs. From what i read the program will give you a full 12 bar battery when you first sign up, and when you loose three bars, it will replace it again with another 12 bar. but i guess your right that we cant bet on this...

with their new rental program you can switch over to the 12 bar battery at any time, i dont believe you need to wait till 4 bars are gone

no sleazy sales people are doomed.... to the OP you need to return the car, or take nissan up on their new battery leasing option. your trouble is the car has lost capacity and it is being even more conservative with the battery rage readings. i would raise all hell that they were not more...

well the hope would be that when economies of scale kick in (100K leafs on the road) the price drops to 50 a month :) at least its a start, they could have said tough crud buy a 15K battery :/

you guys see the new battery policy, similar to Europe. you can buy it, they take your battery back and give you a fresh new one and you pay them 100 a month, and they will replace it when you loose 3 bars with one back at 12.... even with my electricity cost id still be saving over 100 a month...

got it... poor form on nissan as the technology for accurate capacity measuring is not terribly expensive

what are some causes of the low accuracy? I would hope that the can-bus is feeding information to the ecu that was at least 90%+ accurate. if this was an ICE a discrepancy like that would cause it to run terribly

I understand that there is a possibility of inaccuracy. im keeping track more for a reference. but i have to say, if the data is being pulled directly from the can-bus with no interpolation or interpretation, it should be pretty damn accurate.

Just let me know rick. update, after multidays with battery over 100 (currently 8:30pm and battery still shows 106 after 3 hours in a 90 degree garage) my battery capacity is down to 95.73% AHr= 63.42

RickS, if you want to meet up, i have the app and the scanner and can scan your car for you.

do you have the timer set up? ive noticed when the timer is one the charging is wonky.. turned it off and everything is right. will take it into the dealrship when i have time, but just a suggestion to get you out of a jam quick

I know, its hell... was out flying yesterday. couldn't get in soon enough once it started heating up, bumpy as all hell