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Michigan Electric Auto Association is organizing 2 events during this year's Drive Electric Week. Lansing will also an event. Please see the links below for more information. We look forward to see many Leafs this year at the event. Ann Arbor -...

We will be organizing 2 events on the national plug in day. See the links below for updated information. http://pluginday.org/event.php?eventid=97" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; http://pluginday.org/event.php?eventid=103" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

@surfingslovak yup, was away for a bit. posting heavily on TMC. Let's see how much we can do in this short time.

Hi Folks, It has been a while since I posted in the forums here. National Plug-In Day is very close and will be a very exciting event this year, as we can clearly see EVs gaining popularity. Michigan Electric Auto Association had planned 2 events last year in MI. However no events are...

Hi Ray, We talked on other post by me "EVs with TMS". I agree I am overstating benefits of TMS in cold weather. I was just wondering whether that would be of any benefit. Turns out not, Tesla would also suffer 20% range loss in cold climates. So at this point of time, it is mainly a range...

@ mlapratt Thank you for dropping by and sharing your experience. My commute will be similar to yours with few key differences, almost 60% highway commute, no access to charging at work, plan to get rid of ICE car as no space for parking, cold-soaking for 12 hours at work, shorter RT commute of...

Michigan Electric Auto Association Web Site: michiganEAA.org Location: 1620 Baldwin Ave, Ann Arbor, MI 48104

@johnqh Thank you for your reply. You bring up an interesting point. Solar powered TMS could be in future, once PV efficiency increases. I saw somewhere on Nissan owners blog, in a video interview of a Nissan executive, that to charge the EV battery, they would need a trailer of solar panel...

Hi Tony, As usual, very clear explanations. Cold range data with Leaf was exceptional, it helps to have real world performance. As you know already, that helped me in my decision. I really thank your volunteers for doing that. If you are game, then you can generalize to all EVs. It was really...

@ RegGuheert Valid point. Benefits to them and lower cost for consumers too. Battery research is certainly progressing rapidly, will be interesting to see how different Gen 2 EVs will be, and what technology would they use? We should get more clarity about future of TMS then.

@WetEV Thank you for your reply. I agree about cost and complexity esp when benefit is not sure or tiny for most people, but still a product performance should not differ this much, it is bad for reputation. It may have been right strategy for start, but now after they have established...

Hi Tom, Whatever the reasons were, I agree it basically rules out Leaf in those climates esp for people with longer commute. If they are going to sell EV all over the world, then they would need to fix this, either with TMS or improved battery architecture. Hari

Hi Stanton, Thank you for your reply. I agree Nissan needed different strategy to succeed. They certainly thought differently than Tesla and GM. Nothing helps better than the lower sticker price. Atleast people in moderate weather can enjoy benefits of EVs. As said before, I am just sad to...

@ RegGuheert Thank you for your reply. I signed up for that forum, and read his post, pretty impressive. I will sure contact him to know more. Ford Focus EV is an option, but it is still not purpose built EV, with virtually no trunk space, so would be hard to replace my current hatchback...

@ RegGuheert Thank you for your reply. That would be the scenario for 4 months in Michigan during winter months. I am alright if the temp is over 32 F, as even on those days temp dips below 20s in night. If TMS kicks in below 20 F to prevent cold soaking and keep battery warm so it doesn't...

@ Pipcecil Thank you for your reply. Your observation is right, I do notice the difference now after comparison. Sticker shock always plays some role in adoption of a new product. I think Nissan has now well established themselves as leader in EV. They can afford to offer a version with TMS for...

Hi Ray Thank you for your reply and further explanation on TMS and Leaf range. I will sure contact parking administration at my work for a parking spot near an outlet, however not hoping much as it is an ancient structure. It seems best way is to arrange a backup of some sort, either higher...

@ cwerdna Elon was right to predict that far ahead. I don't understand the rationale of not including one, when everybody else has it. Must be French employees in Renault-Nissan, just joking. I read and heard about heat not being a great friend of EV batteries, but more so in Leaf's case. So...

@ Scott Thank you for forwarding those links. Winter test was good, atleast it shows you can drive on the show, though had lots of edit. I will sure look around in other forums for answers.

@ Tony, Thanks for explaining how TMS would work. I don't think so there will be problem with Model S even in cold it has plenty of range for my commute. AWD version for Model S is nice, I guess it would add another 4K-5K to price. Model X is delayed, so have to make up my mind before that...