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Would be nice to know regarding the battery question? Cause I think I can get the dealer to go even lower than $20,000 OTD on the 2014 SV. Thanks for the lease comparison to the national deal. I think I can shave another few buck per month, so good to know that I already have something decent...

Ok, that's helpful advice. Looks like leasing is the way to go. Do you think the deal I was quoted is aggressive?

Do you think I can better than $21,500 OTD for it? Maybe $19K? Don't want to submit an unreasonable offer.

My requirements are to get the HOV sticker and save on fuel costs. I have access to charging stations at work. My round-trip commute is 60 miles.

Even though effectively it's $10K. I guess it's going to depreciate drastically over the next 3 years.

This is where I am at with respect to quotes. New 2014 SV for $21,500 OTD (this does NOT include Federal Credit and CA state rebate) = effectively $10K, am I missing something? 2015 S w/QC for $276 per month (includes taxes), $0 drive off, 36 months, and 15k miles (still qualifies for CA state...