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You definitely have a point on the pricing thing. I looked at a car near me on a used dealers lot, SV w/QC and premium, a pretty rare combo it seems. Clean car, good miles, he wouldn't budge off of 12k. Was ready to buy it until my friend with access to Manheim figured out the dealer paid...

My wife and I are going to South America on Friday for some vacation, our airfare for both of us is not even 1.5k total :D She is the queen of cheap flights, actually I guess we are both cheap haha. Probably why we aren't debt slaves and I'm semi-retired at 55.. To each his own, right?

dea Well sure, 1-1.5k is really not a huge difference but around my area the spread is at least that. Dealers asking around 13k for 2013 SV w/QC, without QC can be had around 11k and if I look further out (GA/NC) an SV can be had closer to 10k. I already own 9 vehicles in my household so...

I really appreciate all the helpful comments here. I think for my needs the heat pump is pretty much a necessity, the quick charge less so. For my own running around level two charging would be fine, if I need more range I can just take another vehicle. My wife's work/commute doesn't allow for...

Thanks everyone for taking the time to offer your thoughts, all good points. Fortunately for us, my wife and I have lots of transportation options on any given day as we have too many vehicles now! (the wife is a good sport and eco minded but I did get some version of "we need another car???"...

Hey Leaf people, been looking for some time for a nice off lease car. Initially convinced myself I need a heat pump model (I'm in SE PA) and that the quick charge could be potentially very handy. Focusing on 2013 SV w/QC, seems like that is a hot item. Lots of awesome deals but even better...