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    Is CARB eliminating the category of MSEV (minimal rex serial EV)?

    This argument is useless. It is a language based argument and not a scientific argument. The real world is analog and works by scientific principles, and not by linguistic categories (that lefties prefer) or conventions. If an MSEV generates only 1% of the emissions, then it better receive...
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    The “range–extended” EV (BEVx) considered

    I am pretty sure that @edatoakrun implied in a couple of other posts that the fuel would be directly combusted for cabin heat. That is why he favors propane as the fuel, as it can be combusted in the cabin without elaborate exhaust consideration, and when the vehicle is stationary. But I am...
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    The “range–extended” EV (BEVx) considered

    Not really when you consider that a serial EV does not need a transmission, as a PHEV would need. Also that the Rex in a SEV is fine-tuned to operate at its maximum point of efficiency, instead of having to change its RPM to match that of the wheels. Finally, a SEV Rex can be so small, as...
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    The “range–extended” EV (BEVx) considered

    No need to burn fuel in a gas fired furnace for cabin heating. When the Rex is on, 75% of the energy is wasted as heat. Use the heat from the Rex to heat the cabin.
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    The “range–extended” EV (BEVx) considered

    Are we not saying the same thing? That the law was wrong, and the regulators were even more wrong? That perfection is the enemy of the good? Besides, CARB's mandate is to "reduce" pollution and not to "eliminate" pollution. They never understood the concept of a Rex and confused that with a...
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    Is CARB eliminating the category of MSEV (minimal rex serial EV)?

    The argument has moved well beyond what you say. Why don't you follow the debate? Some leftie folks are saying that if you are not a BEV (0% emissions), then you should get very little credit. What is the amount of "partial credit" for a PHEV? 30%? Is it fair or is too low for a SEV/MSEV? I...
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    Is CARB eliminating the category of MSEV (minimal rex serial EV)?

    But this is patently wrong. It is wrong to assign 100% credit to a BEV and 0% to an MSEV that generates only 5% of the exhaust of an ICE. "Zero Emission" has not been mentioned in the Bible, so it is not a sacred thing. MSEV should receive at least 95% of the credit or even more for beating...
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    Is CARB eliminating the category of MSEV (minimal rex serial EV)?

    Would you kindly put a link here to your thread, so we can relate the two together? Problem is that people having SEV or MSEV in mind will never search for "BEVx". Maybe for REx, but that will be it. I am looking forward to your long reply. What do you mean by "AE" in your profile...
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    Is CARB eliminating the category of MSEV (minimal rex serial EV)?

    Your good intentions are noted, but you can't expect exactly one thread for every one subject. Some people here are new or come and go and they can't track each and every thread and relate a subject to it. The mods are already overworked, so let us be relaxed about this. After all, that is...
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    Is CARB eliminating the category of MSEV (minimal rex serial EV)?

    Ahem, the burden of proof is on the regulator who is vested with powers. Not on the critic of the regulator or the consumer. Fact is that a policy that allotted credit in proportion to exhaust elimination would make good sense as a starting point. But the ideological enviro-fascists at CARB...
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    LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

    Funny - I moved the Rex thread elsewhere, and you complain after I move it, and then filter my posts? And further funny that you participated in the Rex subthread, without even bothering to move it to a new thread elsewhere. Is it because you lefties cannot face the fact that CARB a government...
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    Is CARB eliminating the category of MSEV (minimal rex serial EV)?

    This thread originated in "General Nissan Leaf" --> "LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)", and was moved here as it was off-topic. Lack's nuance. It is not written in the Bible that if an MSEV generates 5% of the exhaust of an ICE, then it should be disallowed. Regulating that a BEV...
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    LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

    Lack's nuance. It is not written in the Bible that if an MSEV generates 5% of the exhaust of an ICE, then it should be disallowed. Regulating that a BEV is what the masses should get because of 0% exhaust and not an MSEV because of 5% exhaust is counter-scientific, puritanical, and a...
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    LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

    I think you have missed the point. The point is that it was CARB who dictated that a SEV or MSEV (minimal Rex Serial EV) is a bad idea and must not receive full credit. BMW was just reacting to the brainless rules of CARB, pushed by its incompetent and ideological sociology graduates, and was...
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    LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

    Power required at 70 mph on a level highway is about 20 kW. With a 10% incline (which is a lot BTW), power required jumps to 81 kW, or four times as much, to maintain the speed. My comment was in response to SageBrush who claimed that the extra 61 kW needed for climbing will be subject to huge...
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    LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

    Wrong - you need to subtract the 25 kW available from the Rex, to get at the battery depletion rate. Furthermore, the climb by itself does not result in significant drivetrain losses - it is the speed that results in losses, and that has already been accounted for.
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    LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

    Ad hominem. Can't face the facts, so attack the messenger. Have you ever dealt with regulatory personnel and their ideology driven methodology in government agencies? Probably never. Or maybe you work for government in such a capacity? I have worked with a range of personnel in government...
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    LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

    -- You mean BMW voluntarily chose to limit Rex to 6.5% SoC? Why would they do that? Did BMW need a bullet in the head? Let's face it. They were arm twisted by CARB due to some enviro-activist who wanted to reduce CO2 but was so incompetent that he/she could not see how his/her bad decision...
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    LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

    I don't want to appear bickering, as we agree more than we disagree on many things, but again, a BEV with a Rex will have at least 30 kWh storage. Whoever is going to climb mountains should turn on their Rex before they even get on the highway, so that by the time the Rex reaches the steep...
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    The “range–extended” EV (BEVx) considered

    Whoever moron at CARB who decided that a BEV charge assist (i.e. a minimally powered gasoline genset) should be called a "Range Extender" (which it is not - it is for occasional use and for finding a charger), and dictated that it may not be turned on before 5% SoC (instead of dictating a...
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